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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5607117

What I said last time:


Calling all Autistic comrades!

And calling all neurodivergent comrades!

We will be going through Empire of Normality: Neurodiversity and Capitalism by Robert Chapman. You can purchase the book through this hyperlink here or here or even here (but preferably through the first two links as I want to support the publisher).

The first two chapters are:

Chapter 1. Rise of the machines

and

Chapter 2. The invention of normality

There's also the Preface and Introduction.

Every week, we'll go through two chapters, at least, every week, but if you want, we can go through it bi-weekly (as in, every two weeks, to be precise). I don't think it deserves to be monthly as it's a rather short book. It's about 165 pages of actual text and the rest of the book is supplementary pages, such as References and Works Cited. Otherwise, give your general thoughts down below.

My thoughts:

I'm near the end of the book. I like that Robert Chapman takes issue with Judy Singer and some of her comments later on. But also, regarding the first two chapters, I felt that they were really compelling and helped set up the general interest in the matter at hand. I felt that it does well in terms of getting the reader to understand why normativity is a negative feature of capitalism, even if it may have been preferable to the pseudo-science of the feudal era. The feudal era's views on mind and body are interesting, though, and more in line with reality, where there is no obsession with a "normative slate" (my words) and instead, everyone is literally different, more or less, from each other. Not sure how to explain it in my own words, but I think as children, we all kinda thought this before we had concepts of what was "right and normal" and what was "wrong and harmful." The relation to Das Kapital and Marx in the second chapter are also pretty interesting as well.


What I say this time:

The next two chapters are:

Chapter 3. Galton's paradigm

and

Chapter 4. The eugenics movement

The info about Francis Galton was interesting and it's no surprise that he helped found psychiatry, looking back on it all. Emil Kraepelin (a name that I didn't exactly recognize) was also fond of Francis Galton and probably carried the eugenicist approach with him. In sum, Kraepelin wanted to "winnow" people out so they wouldn't "mix" with the other races and wanted to expand on Galton's "scientific" study of intelligence and encompass every aspect of the human mind in his research. Also, the leading power of psychiatry was Germany which, well, certainly became more important later. And according to the first page of chapter 4, Winston Churchill was a big proponent of eugenicist psychiatry. The word normalcy also started to appear with Warren G. Harding's Presidential run in 1920.

My overall thoughts are that this book excels in bringing people up to speed on the history of psychology, psychiatry, and neurodiversity and capitalism from a Marxist point-of-view. Definitely well-worth the read. I highly recommend it.

Here are some questions to help guide you when giving your thoughts down below:

What, and how much, did you learn from the last two chapters?

and

What did you find most interesting from them and what would you like to be elaborated on more?

So same questions as last time, but they work here, in this case.

Join me in this book club that I've set up and I'll tag you all as needed.

Anywho, fire away!

(Make sure to invite others!)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5080808

I would suggest watching some of the previous episodes.

My favorite episode is this.

(Yes, George Lucas is definitely Autistic.)

The hosts are kinda liberal, vaguely DemSoc, but I love 'em all the same.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4649234

I'm watching this rn.

Very good stuff.

I suggest subscribing to his channel for tech stuff.

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If you do find yourself making the comparison then you should seek a therapist that has experience with ASD.

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I used to think i only told people about my autism in order to feel more comfortable or trusting. I suppose that’s part of it but i’ve begun to realize that the trust is what encourages me to share.

I want to give them tools to understand our communication with less friction.

Obviously I must continue to use my own tools to better understand the people around me but if i can avoid causing suffering before it happens ill do that too.

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The Lobotomy 2.0.

Assholes.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/421421

Transcript from the post:

I've read here and there about how autistic people aren't able to recognise social hierarchies. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but in my experience it's not that I haven't been able to recognise them, it's that I don't respect them and I don't care (inverted smiley face)

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Great, more potential "diverse" imperialists to deal with.

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Politics is full of nuance and contextual information; so struggling with interpreting social contexts can lead to autistic people being gullible.

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So much for "social democracies", they may as well just be capitalist countries.

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Once again, capitalist try to eliminate autistics rather than help them.

Welp, I'll make sure to dodge therapies in the future.

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Every capitalist country ever.

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Sigh.

Autistic people and reputable science: Here it comes! Autism Communities: Ah shit, here we go again.

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I know this is the autism community but as someone with ASD and ADHD, I thought people here might appreciate this video. There tends to be an overlap between the two.

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So it means that the diagnosis Autism really targets people whose brains have developed differently from the average person.


Now the eugenicists are going to try to edit the progenitor cells. I guess it's time to prepare for a large-scale attempt at eugenics.

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U.S legal system at its finest: "You aren't actually harmful to children; but you downloaded child porn and that's all that matters! You are sentenced to be a sex offender… even though the sex offender registry had never worked and failed to complete any of its goals.

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What struck me about Augustus’ comments was that it is completely normal to start dating in your early twenties. I started dating in my early twenties, for one, and so have many of my friends, both disabled and temporarily non-disabled.

  1. What are their sources? (Other than anecdotal evidence.)
  2. "Normal" is an alienating term; not everyone will receive an average expectation.
  3. Most incels have not gotten a relationship or had sex. That is the definition of involuntary celibate.
  4. Who are the author's friends and what are their material conditions? There could be different material conditions that separate Augustus from them.
  • They could be female (teens can get dates too) humans who are more likely to get dates.
  • The author could have lived in a place accepting of neurodiversity.

What is clear is that the fight against incels and their ideology must include a fight for comprehensive sex education for all students

Improper sex education is part of the problem; but it should be important to look at the economic system of the place an autistic person lives at.

The U.S is an example. They discriminate for romantic partnerships and against celibate people:

  • Taxes are reduced for married partners
  • The inability to pay for necessities forces celibates to get partnerships
  • Bonuses are exclusively given to parents.
  • Societal programming to inculcate the unconditional worship of parents.
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Unlike in the old Soviet Union…

The Soviet Union had discovered autism (although as a different term) in 1926;^[Sukhareva-Prior to Asperger and Kanner] the Soviet Union also cared for autistic people.

Because of the lack of state resources going into treating autistic people, many parents of autistic children have to rely on “NGO’s” (they are unable to register as such, but are NGO’s according to the international interpretation of such a term). [5] These NGO’s are often rather inadequate: although many claim that they use ABA (Applied Behaviour Analysis), very few professionals working for these organizations have received formal training in ‘‘real’’ ABA principles and techniques. [6] Those organisations that do, such as the Stars and Rain institute in Beijing, are costly. Stars and Rain offers a 10-week programme in ABA, but the cost of the treatment is 3000 yuan (about $361.) with families being responsible for travel and accommodations on top of this. For most families in China, this is too much. [7]

Sigh... Looks like it's those ABA worshipers again.

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I haven't been able to figure how sensory traits (like hypersensitivities, hyposensitivity, and sensory triggers) are formed or if they change. I tried searching online; but I keep coming up empty.

I guess science hasn't been able to figure that out yet.

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Wait, I already posted about this topic... Oh well, this post is much more elaborate on my opinion anyway.


Deepfakes can generally be detected by analyzing the movement of the deepfake,^[Deepfake Detection Techniques: A Review]^[Detect DeepFakes: How to counteract misinformation created by AI] or general sensory details.

However, some traits of autism conflict, while others align, with those methods. I think it should be important to have a discussion about autistic people and deepfakes.

Sensory overload

Sensory overload could be a problem when analyzing a Deepfake; it could result in a potentially large delay in deepfake verification.

  • If an autistic person were to get sensory overload from the facial movement of a deepfake, it could be difficult to discern multiple deepfakes from facial movement.

  • If an autistic person were to get sensory overload from sunlight, then the autistic person would not be able to discern fake sunlight in deepfake videos well.

Also the autistic person could only be able to verify few videos during recovery or burnout (if it occurs).

Nonverbal communication deficits.

The inability to perceive nonverbal cues means that relying on the deepfaked person's body cues to detect deepfakes becomes less reliable. (e.g Using real videos of Zelenskky or Tom Cruise to detect deepfakes of them.)

Hypersensitivities

Hypersensitivity to sensory stimuli could be an advantage or disadvantage in detecting deepfakes; hypersensitivities include an increased sensitivity sensory stimuli, which can be helpful in determining if the medium is believable enough to be verified as a real video. Deepfakes rely on creating believable media to trick the viewers.

  • A hypersensitivity to light could result in an ability to easier detect unnatural light simulations.
  • A hypersensitivity to movements can result in the autistic person detecting unrealistic body movements easier.
  • A hypersensitivity to sight (or seeing textures) can result in the autistic person detecting unrealistic textures easier.

However, these hypersensitivities could also result in an increased probability of receiving sensory overload, which could reduce the ability to discern deepfakes for a time period.

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I've been thinking about banning those "aww" posts for some time. You know those posts flared with "aww" on r/autism? I like those posts, but they unnecessarily clutter up the subreddit; and I think I would prefer this community to be a more serious discussion platform.


Also I'm going to change a term in rule 1: 'related' to 'relevant'. Relevancy is a more definition to my idea of rule 1.

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