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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I agree that veganism is about the animals, but why do we care about them? Is it not their consciousness that make them morally significant?

I see no distinction between conscious beings, be them from this world of not, carbon-made or not.

Btw I'm not trying to create AI-ganism or anything like that. My purpose with this post was to help non vegans that care about this problem make the same connection with the animals they exploit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's not about feeling pain, is about their will to live.

If the argument is only about pain/suffering, then 'ethical' meat becomes a thing and people would still ignore the being's will to live.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Once the machine has a conscience, they should have their will respected.

 

First, let's define being conscious as at least having a mind that is aware and has a will.

Maybe there's and argument if the being wishes to be used, but the argument I'm going to make is not about that.

The following is said without judgement because it's something I've done for most of my life before noticing and taking action.

If we recognize that a being (organic, silicon based or whatever) with a conscience should not be exploited and used against its will, there is no reason we should not apply the same principle to the animals we exploit and kill daily when we pay for their products. They should have a right to at least not be exploited.

Please take that into consideration and know that you can take action to stop this injustice. Check out the sub for more info and feel free to ask anything in the comments or DM me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

There's already a scaled sort, that will boost the ranking of communities you follow ;). I hated (not) seeing downvoted posts on vegan communities.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

There's nothing stopping a malicious user from doing that right now. Be aware that anyone who wants can already see your votes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We already depend on trusting instances for a lot of what's going on here, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to defederate untrusted ones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. Currently, any admin can modify any local user activity, can't they?
  2. Not really, your local instance may still hold the vote data for validation. And therefore could be ported and resigned.
  3. Don't see the problem.
  4. Today, each instance decides whomever they want federation with. The ones who decide the criteria should be the same ones who decide whom the instance federates with.
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Your first comment expands on both privacy and security. There is no privacy without some type of security.

Now to answer your questions: Yes and yes. Users from c/all were downvoting posts from a small community I'm a part of because they don't agree with. I couldn't see the posts from small communities that are important to me because of that. Now we have the possibility to sort by "scaled", which fixes that. Sometimes there are discussions that are very relevant as to who is voting for what. But that discussion has nothing to do with privacy, which was your first point and went unacknowledged on your second comment.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Not only admins can see the votes, but anyone on Fediverse (except regular Lemmy users) can see them.

Security through obscurity is prone to failure when it is used by itself. If people want their votes to actually be private then another method of securing their privacy should be created.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

User choice would be best indeed. The problem is that currently the votes are public but hidden from Lemmy regular users. Anonymize votes seems to be such a big problem the devs don't even want to consider it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I completely agree with the idea of more accountability. We are real people in acting public right here, we should be constantly aware that our actions have consequences. If you don't want your pseudonym associated with a vote, don't do it. It's kinda like the opposite of 4chan, where instand of anonymous controversial content on top, here we have human-curated content being pushed up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What it the instance signs the activity? Then it propagates to others instances after local validation. That way only local admins would have access to voting data. Malicious instances could still be defederated/blocked/have votes disregarded.

 

Currently, almost anyone in the Fediverse can see Lemmys votes. Lemmy admins can see votes, as well as mods. Only regular Lemmy users can't. Should the Lemmy devs create a way to make the votes anonymous?

There is a discussion going on right now considering "making the Lemmy votes public" but I think that premisse is just wrong. The votes are public already, they're just hidden from Lemmy users. Anyone from a kbin/mbin/fedia instance can check out the votes if they are so inclined.

The users right now may fall into a false sense of privacy when voting because the votes are hidden from Lemmy users. If you want to vote something and not show up on the vote list, please create another account to support that type of content and don't tell anyone.

 

I've been vegan for about 12 years (13 in January) after reading some discussions on Reddit about the theme, they hit me really hard after a beloved dog companion passed away.

I make pb&j daily, since it's so easy and yummy. I often eat beans and rice, fried rice, the most varied curries and farofa!

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Mujaddara (discuss.tchncs.de)
 

If vegan food is supposed to be expensive or bland, I'm definitely doing something wrong

 

What can we do to prevent this? There aren't that many of us, and posts being hidden can really hinder our discussions.

 
 

Libp2p or similar stack could be used to provide the phone instance an address, caching could be distributed among peers. Of course, as long as other servers also support libp2p.

What would be the up/downsides?

 

With seitan, sausages, pão de alho, farofa, potato salad cones and chimichurri

 
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