LainTrain

You're missing the point. Whether the punishment was fair based on the law isn't the same as the punishment being fair period.

I've had tons of independent pizza, idk maybe it's worse in the US because it's only Americans that seem to say this but Domino's is fairly uptown here

I don't actually really care that much about the climate and I'm pro-natural-exploitation so long as the spoils of it are shared evenly amongst the proletariat (present and future, so including some degree of preservation), but if some pathetic centrist system-defender wants to label me an eco-warrior I'll wear it with pride.

challenges faced by changing

Aww, profits go down? What a shame. Degrowth would be such a bad thing what will I do without the AI crypto meta verse being made in 2 years :(

any real desire to moderate or come to some kind of mutual agreement.

A mutual agreement between a rapist and a victim of rape is not a compromise of a rapist being allowed to "rape a little bit" lmao it is an acknowledgment that one party is 100% right, and the other is absolutely fucking wrong.

All it is is pronouncements with your nose in the air firmly telling everybody how utterly scummy they are they don't follow your belief structure.

I don't really care if you don't believe this shit, I think you should consider it, my zealous advocatry for one side I believe is right is not a moral condemnation of opposing and especially not more moderate-but-broadly-in-agreement individuals, it is a condemnation of the system.

The le evil socialists that comprise little more than half of Gen-Z in the UK aren't out to get some slobby middle manager's Toyota Camry, he's just part of a system, they're there for those who embezzled billions to actively enforce the system.

Actually it's the only thing that's relevant. In your opinion legal = good and well-behaved=good, but not in mine.

If a system like ours denies change and justice, then it doesn't deserve people cowtowing before it.

Real justice is about the why, and the broader context as much as it is about the what. A ransomware gang in Russia stealing from grandma is obviously not the same as a single mother stealing formula to feed her child. By your logic If the mother is upset and doesn't think highly of the system, she gets a stricter sentence. Needless to say - this is absurd.

I feel like this is morality 101, no offense. I doubt you actually believe that context shouldn't matter, but that's how it comes off.

Needless to say, I think the sentencing should take into account not how you 'conducted yourself' but why you did what you did. I'll agree that we disagree.

I agree with Tommy Robinson being charged in contempt of court because I disagree with his views.

I disagree with JSO members being charged in contempt of court because I agree with their views.

Because the former's views are racist vile shit, but the latter's views are well intentioned calls for reform.

The two are in fact, not equal, and treating them as such, judging them only by how well they play the system we all know is designed to benefit the status quo is putting that system onto a pedestal of perfection and ignoring all nuance.

Idk what to say? Corporate terrorists who shit up our planet from oil execs to their political lackeys all deserve to be put to the sword. Someone bringing attention to that in a legal system that serves capitalist interests in such a brazen, dedicated fashion is a hero of mine.

This is my original opinion I've come to over many years from being a dedicated establishment defender concerned with "civility" and broadly unaware of the concept of negative peace that serves the purpose of denying justice to those affected, then to moderate "shit sucks but neither side is right" to now radicalized, and I know exactly why my opinion is that way - it is witnessing the collapse of this country in real time that got me to open my eyes to the fact things here are run by thieves who steal from us all tangibly and less so, from the landleeches who leech off labour when we have enough excess housing to house everyone right now, literally solving homelessness, to the oil execs who leech off our very planet - a planet that it's very hard to argue does not belong to all of us, and when the system fails to account for this it is a failed system, and thus direct action outside of the justice system run by and for those same thieves is almost always justified - nay - morally required.

And no, being in contempt of court isn't based.

1984

the protestors affected emergency services

Cars affect them way more, so if anything JSO would prolly in the long term make things better for them.

the protesters were repeat offenders

Based.

the protesters said they are glad they broke the law

Based.

the protester who got the longest sentence was in contempt of court and got arrested again during the court case

Based.

the protestor who got the longest sentence was continually rude to the judge and constantly tried to create drama in the courtroom, generally a terrible idea.

Based. Being a judge prosecuting fucking climate protestors is the real crime.

the protester who got the longest sentence said he would commit more crimes, he would never stop, and he couldn't wait to get out there and commit more crimes.

Unreal, I don't even know the guy but have enormous respect for him. Thanks for sharing this.

Good. Finally it's warm

Shouldn't be having babies anyway too many folks as it is

Why not? I've never really had any serious issues with them tbh like the order experience is always fine and it's usually cheap as hell (£12 for a large pizza here in the UK from Dominos or PJs, obvsly no tipping either and tax is in price), and if they don't deliver you can always get a refund. All the smaller restaurants are usually immigrant traffickers or ghost kitchens here nowadays.

Chad. Glad you're around! Thanks so much for answering all these questions.