this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2024
67 points (98.6% liked)

United Kingdom

4062 readers
219 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in [email protected] or [email protected]
More serious politics should go in [email protected].

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually it's the only thing that's relevant. In your opinion legal = good and well-behaved=good, but not in mine.

If a system like ours denies change and justice, then it doesn't deserve people cowtowing before it.

Real justice is about the why, and the broader context as much as it is about the what. A ransomware gang in Russia stealing from grandma is obviously not the same as a single mother stealing formula to feed her child. By your logic If the mother is upset and doesn't think highly of the system, she gets a stricter sentence. Needless to say - this is absurd.

I feel like this is morality 101, no offense. I doubt you actually believe that context shouldn't matter, but that's how it comes off.

Needless to say, I think the sentencing should take into account not how you 'conducted yourself' but why you did what you did. I'll agree that we disagree.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No it's not my opinion. Your problem is that you think that everyone is fighting you, well they are not, we're just pointing out that personal beliefs are not the same as legal truth. I just don't like disingenuous people who seem to think that because you want something to be the case it actually is the case.

Whether I like the law or not or whether you like the law or not isn't relevant. You can't break the law and expect anything other than prison time and fines, just because you think you have some moral authority. It's not my problem if you don't like it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You're missing the point. Whether the punishment was fair based on the law isn't the same as the punishment being fair period.