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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Now add bright red and blue lights."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

And have everybody shout at each other, have people stand in random locations instead of a workstation and give everyone anxiety so much they cry whenever somebody looks at them wrong.

"There, I created the perfect working environment" - Some shitty interior designer at Starfleet

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget the crying. So. Much. Crying.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Kathryn would have absolutely fucked their shit up, not a single tear shed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

"Increase lacrimation by 90%."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Starlet? You just described retail life under those damnable lights that are supposed to simulate daylight for 16 hours a day

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And lens flare, shitloads of lens flare.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

That's more JJ than Kurtzman, but he does have it a little too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Also lights at eye level.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

When we said we wanted a dark and gritty Star Trek, we didn't mean literally dark and full of gravel.

Actually... I don't think anyone even said they wanted a dark and gritty Star Trek. At least, not one set outside of the "evil" universe.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I would love a "dark" story based around smuggling during the dominion war. I always envisioned an entire ship's interior as a holodeck that would change appearances when they were boarded by different factions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interesting take. Holo projectors throughout the ship. Creating labyrinths to keep intruders lost. It'd be great if it wasn't cost prohibitive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Harvesting tech from scuttled ships after conflicts. Just jury-rigged holoprojectors that glitch out every once in a while and send the entire crew to holo-Risa.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe the Hirogen in the Delta quadrant have started doing that by the current timeline.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I feel like those producers, writers, and directors heard a lot of “Deep Space Nine is the best Trek because it wasn’t afraid to be dark and portray violence and loss on a galactic scale.” and they took all the wrong lessons from it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We already had "dark" Star Trek, it was called DS9

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which was also dimly lit, but still brighter than Discovery's bridge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Cardassian lighting is limited in maximum brightness

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who wanted grimderp Star Trek? Star Trek at its core is Optimistic. You want grimderp, go read WH40K or listen to Emo rock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh, woe upon those who wish to see their favorite series grow and evolve! What do we say to those who want modern story telling and deep characterization? No! Give me my milquetoast Trek! I don't want to feel things!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I never had a problem feeling things with the episodic series. Nor was there a lack of deeper character development (outside of a few characters; which still happens in serialized content anyway) or story-telling. It just didn't take an entire season to tell a single (or even a B story along with the main plot), coherent story. Nor did it have such a bleak and pessimistic outlook. I want to feel good after an episode; not be reminded of reality. If I wanted to embrace reality, I wouldn't be watching Star Trek.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can’t feel things without graphic violence and war based plots? Or is it the big explosions that give you feels?

Sorry philosophical Trek was over your head. Enjoy your boom booms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Grimdark doesn't mean ultraviolence or meaningless violence. Some of the greatest episodes of TNG are "grimdark", like Yersterday's Enterprise, Best of Both Worlds, and Chain of Command. They don't all have to be hopeful or optimistic. Gripping stories often involve conflict and heavy themes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The one that’s meant for kids feels like clone wars, just gritty enough but still trek.

You know, the one not on the world’s shittiest streaming app that crashes every episode and forces commercials when you paid not to see any.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You know, the one not on the world’s shittiest streaming app that crashes every episode and forces commercials when you paid not to see any.

Prodigy isn't on Paramount+?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Netflix scopped them up and will stream the completed season 2. Whether or not they give it a 3rd is up to them and we know their track record of shows that make it past 2.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, when they darkened the lighting for Generations it looked way better than the flat bright of the show, so I can’t hate the dimmer lighting in the modern shows. I always use dark mode on everything so it’s just my preference.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I get that it's often over-used for dramatic emphasis, but it's definitely easier on the eyes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Probably more practical than replicating sunglasses for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There are limits though...

Like this is the gang led by the Vulcan from Picard. I get that it's night time, but use a little creative license.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I assumed this was a screenshot from What We Do in the Shadows.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Honestly, it's a great scene and the idea of a Vulcan gangster that still adheres to logic is a great one, but it was soooo dark.

Here's Worf in the same scene-

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Oh for sure. It can be done correctly or badly. But the flat bright palette of 90s Trek is not necessarily the greatest thing in the world either, and I say that as someone who grew up on TNG and whose favorite series is DS9.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Extra last panel:

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

NU-TREK sounds like a low calorie granola bar advertised to hikers

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

"Tell him he is a good cat, and a pretty cat."

"...I will feed him."

"...Perhaps that will be enough."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Voyager wins, the bridge is nice and bright until shit goes down, then it gets dimmer and you hear the red alert sound.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

This is voyagers second win, after mopping the floor with the competition for the coveted "most annoying comic relief character" prize

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As I am someone who is photosensitive I really like the low light.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He’s from the Mirror Universe, space him!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

What like a Cylon? Dear lord please don't blow me out the airlock. Shits cold out dar

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Partly they just want to be "dark" but I imagine it's also for benefit of people who just leave their TV at the super-bright default settings designed to look good in the brightly lit stores that sell them, like some kind of video version of the loudness wars.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Damn Federation guidelines on high-efficiency lighting