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Don’t You Know Who I Am?

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[–] [email protected] 277 points 1 year ago (12 children)

that is just sad. yet so many will say sexism does not exist

[–] [email protected] 183 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pretty sure racism is also involved

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

Intersectionality

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's as if, like, if you are a woman, and also in a disfavoured racial category, like, where they, uh, have overlap? Where they meet? It's not the same as either one individually but its own, I guess nexus? I feel like there's a better word for this

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a somewhat niche, but clever word for this particular combo - misogynoir

Coined by Moya Bailey in 2010

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is also common in the guitar community. Some women can shred like mofos, and here comes Jim-Bob McGraw saying their playing is tracked etc., ad nauseum

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah, online gaming has all but confirmed to me that sexism is very alive and well.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Claims to be able to program in C++, Java

"Pfft yeah probably only in Hello World"

No that's Elon Musk. He's full of shit. This Victoria Secret model can actually do something.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Nah Elon is not that useless, he knows how to change twitter's icon

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was so glad we had a woman join our dev team some months ago. It's more fun, more relaxed and we are able to get better results as we just cover a wider area of skills. People gatekeeping programming to include only men are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (15 children)

That poor girl. My gf's only female teammate quit last month and i suggested she start grinding leetcode asap. Could you imagine being the only woman on a team? Pretty strong indicator that something is very wrong there.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's annoying sometimes that people just assume that those who don't work in tech are completely clueless about tech.

It's also really funny to mess with people who assumes that.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago (20 children)

as someone who works in tech, the number of people who think they know about tech and are actually completely full of shit dramatically outweighs the people who don’t work in tech and do know what they’re talking about. it can take a lot of energy to differentiate the 2 groups

dunning krueger is at play a lot, because most people use a computer every day and think they know everything about the internet because they know what DNS stands for and typed a command to flush the DNS cache this one time and it worked

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

This mirrors the experience of anyone who has studied linguistics.

Because everyone speaks at least one language fluently, they tend to assume that they understand how languages work, while having zero awareness of the fact that people have spent generations studying language and communication at the PhD level and that almost nothing about what we reflexively intuit about language actually holds true.

And I say this as a purely amateur linguistics nerd who does not claim any real formal expertise in terms of academic credentials.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Some fragile male egos in this thread. Looking forward to your complaints about the Barbie movie. Sad and pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know what you're talking about. For me the fragile egos are way down the thread, all massively downvoted. The absolute majority is supportive.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are addicted to rage.

A few arseholes on twitter saying negative things sets a chain reaction of rage to all those who are addicted to their own emotions.

The mature thing to do in all cases is to let it go.

It's also worth noting that the original comments could be aimed at the fact she is a model, and not because she is a woman.

#zoolander

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tbf, the original photo was already discounting her abilities. Saying "can program code" for a lead SWE is saying like "can do calculus" for physicist.

[–] odium 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

In their defense, maybe the post was written by some journalist with no technical background at all and doesn't know the difference.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Journalists are expected to do better. Otherwise, just hire anyone because even someone without any formal education could do better

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Whenever I see someone taking down these absolute bottom of the barrel incel dork on social media, it just feels like shoo-ing a squirrel off the bird feeder. Just not even worth taking action

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO, it's always worth it because you dont know who is reading this: I imagine some young or teenage girls might see this-- imagine how they feel when they read the disparaging comments from the incels. Pretty dejected, I'd think. Then imagine how they feel when they read the model/engineer's reply. It also shows boys what shite behaviour is.

It's never a waste to shut the misogynists down-- it's like investing in your future.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm with you. We don't argue this stuff to change the original person's mind, we argue it so that other people reading, who might have tendencies to feel that way, or who are the victim of it, get an opposing point of view.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (21 children)

I manage a software engineering organization at an aerospace company and if I had to rank all my folks, the women would be disproportionately high on the list. It boggles my mind that anyone would discount someone's programming ability because of their gender.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"This paper presents the largest study to date on gender bias, where we compare acceptance rates of contributions from men versus women in an open source software community. Surprisingly, our results show that women's contributions tend to be accepted more often than men's. However, women's acceptance rates are higher only when they are not identifiable as women. Our results suggest that although women on GitHub may be more competent overall, bias against them exists" nonetheless.https://peerj.com/preprints/1733/

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

She makes a valid point, but on the other hand, she causes funny feelies in the incels’ pantsal region.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago

She a boss fr

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (48 children)

Basically they're scared and intimidated. Here is a person who is beautiful and intelligent and has made something of herself and that highlights their own inabilities.

I think sexism is only part of the problem, they'd have a similar response to a male model who had a successful tech career.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure tbh. This reeks of a regular techbro sexism, not a regular insecurity. Intelligent male model will be a point of envy, not hate

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (12 children)

ITT: basically a reddit comment section on a post with any woman.

Guess the "it feels like Lemmy is more positive" days are over. So it goes.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ITT: people getting upvoted for whining about posts from fragile males, while the few such posts are downvoted to oblivion.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What are you talking about? Literally every post with more score than yours is positive and mocking the bigots in the post.

If anything a statement like this reminds me of reddit where <1% has voted and commented but some bad takes are already attributed to the other 99%. (But the good comments are also way older than your post...)

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'd be impressed by anyone who could "Hello, world" in MIPS

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won a competition during university, we had to implement a sorting algorithm with MIPS, however required the least cycles to run won.

I need someone to be impressed by me today, even if it's for something stupid I did almost a decade ago.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

Those guys are pathetic

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

A hello world in MIPS is impressive by itself.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MIPS as in assembly language for MIPS CPUs? If so that's pretty harcore.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's almost like they don't know who Ada Lovelace, Grace Hopper, Radia Perlman, etc. are.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

What a waste

Yeah it must suck to be able to travel the world and do photoshoots for a living, while also being a software engineer on the side (probably a better one than those commenters too)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I admire her. Excelling in two radically different areas.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (10 children)

841st fastest growing company in the us

Weird flex, but ok

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Intelligent and attractive? Out of my league, gotcha. Best to undermine one of those aspects to attempt to bring her down to my level. Well closer anyways.

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