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I have not played Palworld but I love that it has exposed the greed and capitalist rot of the company that makes Pokemon. Seriously, the "old guard" video game giants like GameFreak, Valve, etc. are putting out lazy content and sucking up billions from micro-transactions, lazy retreads, and subscriptions. It's just funny to see capitalists be bad at capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Isn't the Palword dev an NFT and AI stan that stole most of the models?

You do not have to hand it to them. Picking one souless company over the other just because they're the 'little guy' isn't praxis. It's just marketing.

Anyway, there are better indie monster collectors that deserve more support. Check out Cassette Beasts, Monster Sanctuary and Coromon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've seen the AI claim several times, but I've not seen someone backing up the claim. Do you have a source?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That doesn't back that up at all. That's griping about NFTs which do suck ass but half of the traditional publishers also got real weird about crypto shit and then similarly dropped it like a hot potato when the bubble popped.

I haven't seen anyone be able to back up AI use at all, and everyone I've seen trying to say there are stolen models actually shows the exact opposite when they extract models and show them being similar but the polygons being in fact different.

Similar model doesn't mean stolen model. It means someone tried to replicate it manually, which means it isn't just copied and pasted.

I'm not here to stan for the edgelord ripoff game, but virtually all of the complaints against it have been vibes-based at best and Reddit Detective witch-hunt harassment of anyone tangentially involved at worst.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Cassette Beasts

Ooo this looks cool

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I’ve seen real artists get caught up in AI witch-hunts so many times now I’ve lost count.

Not much is more demoralizing than a twitter horde calling your legitimately made art fake.

More of a general principle than Palworld specific though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Okay but is Coromon actually good or am I gonna feel ripped off like I did with Nexomon?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I like parts of this story. I think it's funny and great that this ragtag group of Japanese misfit game dev amateurs stumbled onto a huge hit by cobbling together a bunch of game design ideas from different popular games from the past decade and sprinkling Pokemon on top of them. This hacked together Frankenstein of a meme game has probably outsold FFXVI by now michael-laugh

Apparently the CEO couldn't get hired by big Japanese studios, then found out Steam would let anyone sell games on there

I also like that their character designer is some high school dropout who they found working at a 7/11 near their office

On the other hand, from the CEO's NFT and AI tweets and his own admission that he's more interested in chasing trends than innovative, boundary-pushing game design he kind of seems like an opportunistic rise and grind dipshit

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't like nintendo, microsoft, sony, etc, and I'm simultaneously also not a fan of shady crypto/nft/ai people

There's no proof of ai generation being used in palworld itself but it is clear that the devs are bazinga brains. I don't think this game is any less a cynical cashgrab than games from the big players in the industry

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no proof of ai generation being used in palworld itself

Also the timeline for that doesn't line up. AI generated art was absolute dogshit at the point in the dev cycle where it could have been used, and by the time it reached the "maybe make some concept art to be reimagined as a 3d model" level they'd have to have been in the final stretch towards making it playable. Even now, "AI art" for a 3d game is theoretically using it to upscale, clean up, and detail a rough sketch, something that's only been done in proof-of-concept things AFAIK.

They did seemingly just straight up rip pokemon 3d models and then change them up in blender though which is extremely funny and literally stealing directly from Nintendo is laudable in almost any circumstance, but they are probably going to get completely fucked in the courts over it, lmao.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Real cool kids are playing Shin Megami Tensei and their monster collecting games. Comon guys, as communists we must all support games about killing god

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Their ceo said they spent 6.75million on palworld.

This story ain't it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

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