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I saw this on Mastodon posted by @[email protected] and figured that it was appropriate for this community and absolutely not controversial in any way shape or form.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Option 3: Upsetting all of the English speaking world by pronouncing it to rhyme with pony.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have to also admit, as an American i imagine a scone as a little triangular cake, so I laughed looking at those Popeye's biscuits floating in the corner of the image.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Popeye's biscuits with raisins in them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

äs a svid aj shör låv mi såm skånes

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As an American I wasn't even aware there was a divide in the pronunciation of scone. I think pretty much all Americans pronounce it to rhyme with cone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

As it should be!

Runs away from the incoming ire of the 'gone' crew.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s too late, he s’gone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ex pat in the deep south: I have had both.

They are similar but different enough you cannot interchangeably use them.

"ok what's it like then"

eating a slightly different bread product

"different how"

in flavour and texture

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Well now I need to try me a scone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I had biscuits and gravy on my last trip to the States. Scones are very different. Much fluffier. Mostly the scones I've had have fruit in them too.

Edit: our gravy is nothing like the one I got served either

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The biscuits you had were fluffier. I promise we have biscuits that are 'scone-like'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fair enough. I was quite happy with the biscuits I had. They fit the gravy nicely as a more savoury dish. I wouldn't have liked scones with what I had.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

biscuits are hard and snappable, what's pictured is an english muffin.

i agree that this isn't a scone though, scones are.. doughier? like, an english muffin has the elasticity of bread, while scones are way denser and not elastic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

That is absolutely not an English muffin. I'm simply stating that we call that a biscuit in America.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh christ here we go again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Just be thankful I didn't open up a can of bread rolls/buns/baps.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If I'm reading this correctly it's saying about 1 in 4 people in Dublin pronounce it like "gone" and that is absolutely false. Never once have I ever heard that pronunciation here.

CONE GANG!

edit: I'd be curious how other English speaking countries pronounce it.

Reading through replies it seems Americans are cone heads while Aussies are gone. Fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Thought this looked familiar

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The bottom of that map is more orange than I was expecting. I'm surprised at the blue patch north of England. I always associated cone scone with the posher south.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Now you've gone and started the "where counts as north?" thing too! You absolute monster.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The UK quite often sees words switch around in how posh they are. This is because most people want to sound posher than they really are, while the actual posh people have nothing to prove and want to seem down-to-earth. See U and non-U English.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm thinking that in Hull they surely say "scurn", so maybe they say "curn" for cone?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Saw it claimed somewhere that Queen Liz 2 said it rhyming with “gone”, so it’s not really class. According to the map Bradford, where I grew up, is an absolute fault-line on this issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are some pretty sharp divisions in Ireland it seems. Bonniconlon looks to be holding out as a 'gone' stronghold in the top corner of Mayo for example.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Its well known that The Troubles and separation of North Ireland were caused by the scone debate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That picture looks like an American biscuit. We put white sausage gravy on top and call it "biscuits and gravy."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Outside of America, a "biscuit" is what you guys call a "cookie".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

At least you all agree on how to pronounce it, though. You (presumably) have no idea how deep the divide goes, UK-wise!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That sounds horrendous, white sausage gravy alone sounds like boiled sausages juice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It's actually really good, just nothing like you'd expect from the name. I was curious about it and ordered it on a trip there. Very heavy meal but very tasty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

"boiled sausage juice" 🤤🤤

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sausage gravy uses pan drippings from cooking ground breakfast sausage to create a bechamel sauce. It's usually then flavored with black pepper. Breakfast sausage is also often flavored with sage. From what I understand American-style breakfast sausage isn't really a thing in the UK so it might be difficult to picture the flavor profile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Which is pretty close to what they are! Although iirc biscuits are somewhat more crumbly

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Where's my underappreciated, but definitely real "cone rhymes with gone, but not with scone" gang?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is interesting. In Australia we only ever pronounce it rhyming with gone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say it rhymes with gone, but it's very close. For me, "gone" would be /gɒːn/, while "scone" would be /skɒn/. The difference being the length of the vowel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They’re the same vowel sound in my accent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

And there's the place, Scone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Quite interesting that there's a north/south split in Yorkshire. Anyone from there able to confirm if that's a divide that applies in other less important fields than scones?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If gone and cone ryme how do you process this map?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In what dialect do those two words rhyme?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Rural mid Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Never had an ice cream conn?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I grew up in the green section in North East England and can assure you no one says it like "cone"