Put my body on a Musk Bazinga Rocket that explodes on the launch pad shooting debris up to a mile away killing five.
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Sabotaged by a brave hero I hope, keep your remains on your own damn space rock.
im not justifying this billionaires attempt to claim the moon, but the moon doesn't really have an ecosystem to interrupt, so remains in and of themselves aren't really the issue, moreso the billionaires implicitly claiming it, i think
The moon, like most things, should be treated as a commons. Very few people give a shit about the ashes of one single person, but opening the floodgates to enclosing one of the last remaining commons that have ever been walked as capitalists claim all they can is something that benefits only those capitalists, to the detriment of the rest of us as we need to watch whatever bespoke advertisements are put on the Lunar Billboards in the future.
That and the moon itself is a sort of artifact in the loose sense, one of a handful of cultural touchstones that connects to concrete, objective features of our universe and yet is shared even by ancient cultures that have no knowledge of each other. There's going to be some amount of "defacing" in the process of lunar missions regardless, but at least that "defacing" is for the purpose of exploring and understanding the moon, and not just a dumb vanity project that steals from every future generation to benefit a wealthy lump of charcoal.
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Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
anybody who wants to put ashes on the moon should themselves be immediately cremated and their ashes tossed into a campsite portapotty. fuck you
ok sorry, I can tell it was wrong
Edit: At risk of seeming like a smug bitch I do think being cremated and put into waste wouldn’t be the worst, it would literally return me as part of the natural cycle which could be cool as fuck. It would be cooler than being buried on celestial bodies 9 times out of 10, actually (that last 1 is for if climate change somehow manages to sterilize all soil on Earth and reduces it to a mars-like husk of its former self).
inshallah
wait so it would be morally wrong to get my ashes railgunned onto the moon? Because that's the coolest way I can think of for my corpse to be disposed of
What's the point of being buried or spreading your ashes in a place that your loved ones can't visit? Even if you have your ashes cast into the ocean they revisit said shore.
What's the point of any death ritual?
They're for the benefit of the living, a method to process grief and pain.
I think HST benefitted while living from the knowledge he would be shot out of a cannon. Some religious people can derive comfort from having a ready plot in hallowed ground.
So I guess still for the living, but that can include the living person to be disposed of somehow
yeah, this is why people choose their method of burial rather than us just choosing randomly after they die every time
Bold of you to dictate how people are allowed to think about death
I don't think the dead are getting much out of it.
they are actually, up until they die
That doesn't mean we should be uncritical of such rituals, as though coping mechanisms themselves are fully unassailable. Whatever pathology results in someone thinking being smeared on the face of the moon is the best option can be soothed much more cheaply by means that don't involve actually smearing them on the face of the moon, such as therapy.
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What's the point of being buried or spreading your ashes in a place that your loved ones can't visit? Even if you have your ashes cast into the ocean they revisit said shore.
They can visit it by looking up any time
Eventually, everyone will forget me. The knowledge that I'm going to have an awesome death ritual is more important to me than a legacy that will die anyways- Though, of course, I do care about my future loved one's happiness, too
1.) I predicted this response. It's corny as fuck.
2.) Regardless, not a worthwhile use of money. If you have that much money, then it should be taken away from you as opposed to it being used levying the intense energy needed to move mass over such a great distance for a frankly trivial vanity.
I predicted this response. It's corny as fuck.
??? OK wtf kind of 
is this. this isn't a fighting game where predicting what i'll say will let you counter it like some sort of Super Smash Bros character?
im not defending the yeeting of a rich fuck's corpse at the moon for it to stay preserved in a creepy-as-fuck mausoleum for eternity, just talking about theoretical space ash scattering, which yeah would probably be unsustainable over an extended period (which is why we should shoot people into the sun instead)
I didn't want to acknowledge it before you brought it up since I thought it was such a silly thing to say, and honestly didn't think you would continue the hypothetical in that direction.
my point is that, while i can understand the moon as an important religious site for indigenous people and that should be respected, that should be the reason we don't do stuff like do corpse disposal on it, NOT because it's "useless" or "pointless" (which ultimately could be extended to be said of pretty much ANYTHING we do for our own personal satisfaction now which ends up meaning nothing later on)
That's fair, although I do think that it's immoral to be wasteful when the known costs of an endeavor so greatly outstrips the realizable utility.
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the only space memorials allowed should be tributes to the goodest pup Laika
I only recently realized Laika became such "A Thing" for Red Scare reasons. Long before Laika, the macaque named Albert was killed by the US Space program, and the subsequent primates who -- having been denied the dignity of being called something beyond version numbers -- were named Albert II - V, all either died in transit or, in II's case, on impact with the Earth (I think V burnt up on re-entry, but I'm not sure). It was only with Yorick ("Albert VI") that one actually got to breath Earth's air after reaching space, which took place after a pair of Soviet dogs survived their return.
Not that Laika's case wasn't sad, but I think it's comparatively overblown to talk about the Cruel Soviets.
Edit: I feel obliged to acknowledge the irony that the one named Yorick survived where all his predecessors died.
honestly didn't know that. Another thing I've been brainwashed by.
Jesus Christ, maybe we should make a sun cannon to remove nuclear waste and then leave the rest of space alone. We obviously are not good at touching it without cruelty.
Edit: Maybe not even that, we'll probably miss and somehow hit a baby.
Wait so like we also think making theoretical orbiting space memorials in far off planets would be wrong? God I’m woefully uneducated on the subject of space pollution, I’m sorry for having this kind of liberalism everybody. I’ll try to educate myself before I speak next time
I have committed the most horrible version of liberalism and spoke without knowing.
For any fellow cracker saltines that don’t understand the context, the Navajo nation views the moon as sacred in their beliefs and cosmology and ANY form of human remains there is therefore really, really fucked up.
I was really confused why people were so hostile until I looked it up JUST NOW. I assumed, in my infinite white cracker arrogance, that it was merely the claiming of a segment of the moon that was seen as horrific, and not the act of defacing it with human remains in and of itself, which I can now (and should have from the beginning) understand given how it would be like literally throwing human cadavers into a church but at a much, much worse level. Like throwing gore into Heaven level fucked up shit.
I legitimately feel terrible for this and I’m sorry I didn’t do this bare minimum cursory research. I can’t believe I was stupid enough to not connect how all kinds of burial would be equally fucked up, and I’m sorry I was such a liberal at all.
Please forgive me. I really don’t want to hurt anyone or defend this kind of deep disrespect and direct ignorance of what indigenous people have been saying. I will try to do actual research next time before I open my saltine mouth. No one HAS to forgive me, this is something understandable to be permanently angry at me over, I just want to ask anyways.
Why am I even commenting this? Well, partially because I’m an insecure cracker that needs to transmit it’s dumb feelings online for affirmation. Secondly, because it shows I’m not just some 
lib trying to le epically own the “OPPRESSIVE, EVUL” indigenous people for my own cynical ends
some random tribe claims to own the moon and that's silly
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