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My wife's phone dies every. single. day. and I don't know why she doesn't just charge it at night.

I'm just wondering how people live like this πŸ˜…

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to never charge my phone at night, because of my battery health pedantry. I the found the AccA app which enables me to limit the maximum charging, so now I sometimes leave it changing during the night.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you're still convinced you need to run your battery down to zero you're operating on outdated knowledge of NiCad batteries and ruining your lithium ion batteries.

My Android phone has a built in functionality to charge so that it hits 100% when your alarm is rigged to go off. Idk about iphone though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was not talking about running the battery down to 0, that's no good for li-ion batteries either. I was talking about the exact, opposite, reaching 100% and staying there for hours on end (which happens during the night). With AccA I can set an upper limit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hi Tmpod! This is actually a common misconception among the general device-using public!

You are absolutely correct that a NMC-chemistry lithium battery (this is the kind of battery used in phones) will degrade if you maintain a state of charge (β€œSOC”) for long periods of time that is either above 90% or below 10%. Of course, phone manufacturers know this too, and they have set the charging software to block off the top of the pack, which allows the user to safely leave their phone on the charger indefinitely.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use Samsung built in feature to limit to 85% and I'm so glad they implemented it because I was about to either try to look for an app again or stop charging at night...

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Requires root? I'd rather degrade my battery than run an out-of-date, more vulnerable operating system..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a chargie. It's a physical Bluetooth connected device that connects between the phone and charger and lets you set your own charge limit. Works great with my wireless charger at night. I also have one for my tablet.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Keeping Lithium-ion batteries at 100% charge will reduce their lifespan. They want to live in the 40-80% range. I use an app that notifies me when my phone has charged to 80%, so that I can unplug it. It may be overkill, but I plan to use this phone for 9 more years or so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

9 more years?? I've gotten almost 6 years out of my Oneplus 5T and I've been ecstatic about it. It's literally lasted 3 times longer than any phone I've had before it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both iphone and androids have an OS option to stop charging at 85 though - I keep it on all the time unless I'm going to need that extra bit of juice

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Me too. Samsung has a feature to "protect battery life", so it only charges until 85%. You can keep it on power, but it won't surpass 85%.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I charge it during the day at work.

Boss makes a dollar I make a dime...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

... that's why I charge on company time

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I charge my phone at work ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too, they gotta pay for the battery juice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I know your joking, I still find it amazing how much it costs to charge a phone. Likely around $2 of electricity a year now if what I remember is accurate

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just fall asleep while watching a yt video of something and the phone is still in my hand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I genuinely don't understand how this works for so many people. When i watch something, I watch it and wont sleep until i make the concious decision to stop paying attention and close my eyes. Same with books or anything really. Maybe music works

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on the subject and how much interested you put in it. If the video is just random dumb shit with music, then you fall asleep. If it is a nice interesting movie you may stay awake. Even so, if the movie is boring, you may fall asleep.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It doesn't matter when you got a fast-charge phone.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fire hazard.

I charge it at work while I'm (mostly) conscious. xD

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because I try to charge my phone when I am in the office, as much as possible. There are no small savings in my book :D

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel this pain. Wife's battery-powered devices are always in a constant state of dying. Something has convinced her that it's better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery; meaning it never gets charged overnight. I'm sure there's a small kernel of truth in where she learned that, but it's almost a joke at this point when she goes scrambling for her charger when using her phone, tablet, etc. It's painful, but also adorable? I guess. Anyway, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, so I just let it be and laugh almost everytime it happens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Something has convinced her that it’s better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery

That was true a long time ago when NiCad batteries were around. But, since they had the problems you described, they're not around any more, and phones generally all use lithium-ion batteries which don't have this issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that was true like.. 10+ years ago, but battery and power management tech have advanced so that's no longer necessesary. I think running full cycles on your battery is actually bad for it now, I set mine to stop charging when it hits 85% to preserve battery health.

Sounds stressful constantly worrying about battery life, plopping it on a wireless charger before bed is the way to go.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She needn't worry about manually optimizing battery wear, and, in fact, the most harmful thing you can do to a battery is to fully deplete it frequently.

Educate her about built-in optimized battery charging. iPhones and some Androids have it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

One of my phone's puffed up while being on the charger at night. Woke up next to a spicy pillow.

I work from home on a desk job. I charge my phone once a day so now I do it at 4pm everyday and follow that cycle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

they forgor

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't want an exploding phone in my bedroom. I charge it at my desk while working

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read to fall asleep, so my phone usually stays with me in bed. Pro-Tip, if she has an iPhone, set the Sleep focus to turn on at a specific time and enable low power mode.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For many years I always did this for my own android phone in Tasker, and more recently Samsung Modes&Routines, but thank you for this as I just realized I never did the same for my wife's iPhone

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's actually a safety factor there. When Li-Ion (lithium-ion) batteries fail and suffer thermal runaway (fire), it's most commonly during charging. It's rare, but it does still happen. The rule is to avoid charging Li-Ion powered devices unattended. I do that at times myself, but I realize the risk and actually put things in a "charging pot" if unattended.

You don't need anything fancy to use as a charging pot, a ceramic casserole dish will do. If you're going to charge while asleep or out of the house it's not a bad idea to use some kind of containment.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

when i see people's phones constantly at, like, 12%, it drives me crazy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Haha it's always funny with screenshots posted on social media, like 4% I'm sweating πŸ˜…

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought you're not supposed to keep things charging after they reach full battery. Also I don't have a plug near my bed lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Recent smartphones learn your patterns and don't fill up until the morning. For instance my phone currently is stuck at 80% and says it'll be fully charged at 7AM

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Some people just don't give a f*ck, even when they complain about it all the time...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Because I can charge it in my car, at my desk in the office or with my battery pack when I am out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have a wireless charger on my desk, pretty much almost every day I already have 100% when going to bed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know you married one, ask her and let us know?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are the same, I put my phone and charge (set to stop charging at 85%) overnight, my wife does not, and then her phone dies at odd times like when she is out shopping. I suppose it is about having a scheduled routine or not. I have alarms set for 10:30 every evening to check if a charge is needed for my watch that day. Some people just don't like the routine and prefer to live a bit more on the edge.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I fall sleep while scrolling or watching something in bed, so no overnight charge

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