this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
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[–] [email protected] 319 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don't know about you but I was just waiting for an excuse. I ain't ever going back. It's a brave new world for me, part of shifting my whole suite to FOSS. Leaving the old internet behind me.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 11 months ago (6 children)

In 2022 I was Windows + Twitter + Reddit. In 2023 I'm full-time Linux + Mastodon + Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I've rid myself of reddit (never used Twitter thank God) but I'm still on windows. I just got a steam deck though and I'm loving the Linux desktop mode. What branch of Linux does the deck use? I know I could do a quick Google to find out but damn I love how well it runs. Linux isn't nearly as scary as I thought

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[–] [email protected] 236 points 11 months ago (9 children)

What this shows us is that more people are joining lemmy, but even more people are either leaving or going into lurker mode, as Lemmy only counts people who have commented or posted in that time period as active users, whereas most social media counts any activity while logged in as active. You have to realize that people who use reddit as Google search results don't usually interact with the content there and most won't even make an account.

On the upside, with fewer people, it's easy to get noticed here just by contributing good content since you don't really get drowned out here because of the democratic upvote based sorting instead of black box personalized recommendation algorithms. So with relatively low amount of effort, you can make sure your content is being seen instead of relying on analytics and metrics.

The last thing to in mind that Lemmy is only one aspect of ActivityPub, and Mastodon's growth is currently the highest right now because of the ecosystem created by the whale fall of Twitter, which indirectly grows Lemmy as Mastodon users can post directly to federated Lemmy communities.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

I just got recommended this site after posting on reddit re: predatory algos and the necessary regulations needed to protect people and how algos have manipulated the UX so much its disrupted the originally intended purposes; ie insta has effectively become a marketing and advertising platform.

So in response someone suggested finding alternatives to the popular social media sites and used Lemmy as an example.

I have been loving it thus far - its old school reddit.

this is my first comment on lemmy!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do votes count as activity as well? Or just posts and comments?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (15 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (8 children)

There seemed to be an influx of reddit users but probably didn't like Lemmy's own distinct user base (*nix users for example)

I am kind of glad it settled down because I much prefer Lemmy over reddit

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 11 months ago (11 children)

For anyone panicking, this is exactly like what happened with the transition from ICQ to AOL messenger, from MySpace to Facebook, from 9gag/etc to Reddit, and so on.

Website makes a mistake, some people leave. Makes another, more leave. Each time this happens, more 'main' people of said website leave. Hell, I already saw PoppinKREAM here, so that's a great start.

So this is exactly how it always goes. The fact it is still here means it's staying. Look at Threads, or Metaverse, whatever those things are. All dying or dead, barely lasted. Lemmy is still here, people are still posting, so just keep doing what you're doing. It's already working.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago

It's like a ratcheting effect. Every time schmeddit fucks up, we gain a few more. And if you can count on Spez for one thing, it's that he'll reliably fuck up on the regular.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is why Mastodon is so populated compared to lemmy. Elon just keeps making more and more mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Think it really was PoppinKREAM?! Love to read them again.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 11 months ago (17 children)

I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Very true. I'm still amazed how good lemmy is considering how small we still are.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 11 months ago (5 children)

11 million comments this month. 11 million comments from people smart enough to leave behind the other. 11 million comments, likely largely from actual humans.

Lemmy is thriving.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Plot twist: It's all piped.video bot.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

All the people returning and forgetting what reddit did and will continue to do. Then the next time reddit messes up, they will come back. 😔

Edit: other stats seem pretty good though! Unless i am misunderstanding them.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I can't wait until the next time reddit fucks up.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

The blue one doesn’t reset count every mount so it’s cululative. It means people come and go. There was a big Reddit rush and some people went back others got annoyed with the growing pains and went elsewhere. But the fact that it’s slowing down means it’s stabilizing to a dedicated community.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Lurker here. Just writing this as my first ever comment to push those numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This graph is much more reassuring:

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

We are stable, even slightly growing in the last few days.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

so there was a wave of sign ups with the Reddit drama, and then people got bored. the graph looks about right to me.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Uh-huh

Still, Lemmy probably ended up with more people than before. Also, hey, I came from Reddit drama

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Here's the thing though... I've been on Reddit for over a decade before Lemmy, and whilst there may be less interaction the interactions themselves have been far more sincere. People are more willing to engage, and even with this random comment there's a chance someone would comment below.

The community feel of Lemmy is something, at least I've found, Reddit had lost a very long time ago.

Sort of a quality Vs quantity thing I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I dont get the hysteria, personally.

I came here to escape the crowds, not migrate with them.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago

It doesn't matter. I get all my news here and I can comment if I want. That's enough

[–] Ategon 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

For anybody interested, the monthly active users including voters is 131,150 (131k)

The one in the graph only takes into account people who have made a post or comment

Edit: The halfyear active users including voters is 253,166 (253k)

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago

FWIW Lemmy has fully replaced Reddit as my go-to toilet reading material, and I'm sure there are many other lurkers around here who don't post much and thus don't show up in these stats. The more niche communities are still lacking in content, yes, but these things are best left to grow organically over a long period of time to maintain quality. It was the same on Reddit too before the enshittification escalated.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (5 children)

For whatever anecdotal observations are worth, I've recently been seeing a huge uptick in activity from the userbase that is here. Maybe it's been driven by posts like this one or memes about growing Lemmy, but people seem to be posting and commenting more than usual.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

If lemmy has 100 users I’m one of them

If lemmy has 1 user it’s me

If lemmy has no users I’m dead

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If reddit taught me anything, it's that a growing network isn't necessarily a good thing.

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[–] Ategon 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Zoomed out graph including some months before the join wave

Users/month are relatively stable now at 33x users/month compared to pre join wave (users/month is people who have posted or commented)

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago

Meh, lemmy is already interesting enough to kill time and past that I don’t care

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (21 children)

First of all, rooting for decentralized net 100%. Watching Tumblr, Reddit, Twitter, etc. all get screwed over from the top down sucks. I really appreciate the strong community here - having it smaller and more engaging encourages participation and makes it feel a little more human.

However, I'm considering leaving Lemmy just because somehow it's even more cynical than reddit, and I'm losing interest in opening the app if it's just 99% downers. I mean almost every article is just crushingly bad news. The world is in a rough state for sure, and staying informed is really important! But trying to live on and find the good is near impossible here.

(Yes, I'm subbed to upliftingnews. That's the 1%.)

Is this a demographics thing, or am I just subbed in all the wrong places? Maybe a bit of both?

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

BAD GRAPH, Y-AXIS STARTS AT 20K

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Now that I've goten addicted to the block feature, I'm probably never going back to reddit. Dont like the content from specific servers while I'm browsing the top pages? Block, they stop existsing. Find myself getting baited into low effort arguements? Block and move on. I feel faaaarrr less stressed out lately

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Keep it in mind

We lost active users because of this

  • beehaw has been defed from lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works and other instances
  • some instances like lemmy.film and fmhy went offline
[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (14 children)

I’d imagine Hexbear and lemmygrad ran a lot of people away as well.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

I know this is just anecdotal, but I have literally not seen a single mention of Lemmy anywhere online or in the news in the last 3 months, including on Reddit. "Build it and they will come" only gets you so far...

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I think it would be wise for us to adopt a hashtag system so you can search by topic as opposed to by community. We're so segmented into smaller sub communities and different servers that it's difficult to find what you want to read.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

IDGAF IM HERE TO STAY. LEMMY IS COOL AND WTF EVEN IS A SNOO 😤😤😤

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Weird, because I feel like it is more populated that it was after the huge influx of users because of the APIcalypse.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

The actual content is way better now than it was the first couple of months after the Reddit thing. Initially a lot of the comments were either Reddit related or people trying to force communities that didn't necessarily have the population to survive, yet. That's all fallen away now and the content feels much more organic. Someone opening a Lemmy instance for the first time is going to find today's front page much more engaging than what it looked like in June/July.

Lemmy is becoming its own thing rather than a reflection of Reddit.

In some ways a lot more responsive as well. The news that Kissinger died was all over Lemmy for hours before I noticed one post about it crack the front page of Reddit, for example.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't care I'm here to stay. Only community I miss is formuladank for F1 shitposting. Been trying to get it going here but no traction yet. Everything else, Lemmy 4 life.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I used Reddit for years and maybe posted twice, here i just feel more compelled to participate. I find it hard to put into words, but Reddit feels like social media, which I hate, and lemmy feels more like an old school forum.

Why would more users be better? As far as I'm concerned whatever number of users are right now is the right one.

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