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How a false claim about wind turbines killing whales is spinning out of control in coastal Australia::Windfarm critics claim projects will harm marine life. Scientists say that’s not backed by credible evidence

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The worst part is it's not just 'they'll kill whales, trust us', it's that they've cited a study in a journal to support their claim - but the journal says they have no record of the study being published or existing in the first place!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obviously the deep state is suppressing the truth.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

The deep sea state

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This is literally how q anon got started.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does make you wonder whether someone has cooked the argument up with a language model along the way, and it's just fabricated a citation as they are wont to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I've seen "wont to do" written out until now. Is that the spelling of wont?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is indeed!

The definition of wont will help anyone who doesn’t understand: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wont

To be clear, this is not the contraction of “will” and “not.”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Just like my highschool essays!

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Heard this argument in NJ from the NIMBYs as well. It killed our offshore wind project, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Giant propellers in the sky kill whales got it, but propellers underwater are fine right? Behind a large cargo ship right?

Makes sense as to why airplanes no longer use propellers as well.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

And those underwater propellers makes a lot of noises, reducing the ability of whales to hear mating call.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They argument was that the sonar scans of the ocean floor was hurting whales, which while plausible, ignores that the navy is doing that constantly and the floor scans are temporary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve heard this in NY. What do these people think? That the whales are so annoyed by the sounds that they commit suicide?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There are no noise-cancelling headphones to stop the U.S. Navy's 235-decibel pressure waves of unbearable pinging and metallic shrieking. At 200 Db, the vibrations can rupture your lungs, and above 210 Db, the lethal noise can bore straight through your brain until it hemorrhages that delicate tissue. If you're not deaf after this devastating sonar blast, you're dead.

not sure about whales, but sonar is dangerous if its loud

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There have been necropsies of beached/stranded whales which found bleeding in the ears which would make them deaf and unable to echolocate for navigation or finding food. But generally it's blamed on Navy sonar, not temporary construction activity.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thou shalt not suffer a NIMBY to live.

They really do ruin everything, don't they

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They sure do. I find this movement pretty self defeating though. Sea level rise will destroy the communities that fought against this

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Less likely during the selfish fucks lifetimes though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is more than just NIMBYs in Australia unfortunately. There's a huge campaign pushing nuclear energy here over renewables. The current government is pushing renewables while the opposition party is pushing nuclear. There are a few mining companies and things who stand to make absolute bank if we went nuclear and the mining companies have a lot of political control here. The opposition party is largely in their pockets too.

This article is just one example of the relentless and unashamed attacks on renewable energy here in the complicit media. They have discovered that they can straight up lie to the public and us idiots will swallow it hook line and sinker without question. That's why you get such ludicrous articles like this here in Australia.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big wind. Killing whales. Seriously though, are they doing it on porpoise?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Nar whal maybe

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard that the invisible vibrations from the turbines spinning makes your dick slightly longer and girthier

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s true, look at the Dutch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey pal, their eyes are up there (like, waaay up there).

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

I was at the coast in the summer, not far from an offshore wind farm, and I didn't see a single whale in the sky, checkmate libs.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That reminds me the pamphlet stating that cows milk would turn when a train passes too close to them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This commercial had people thinking spaghetti grows on trees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-ZtGoXkI58

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the prank where Australians tricked foreigners to believe that kangaroos keep their offspring in a fucking pouch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Australians make up bullshit all the time about their animals though. Look at the platypus (otter with a beak strapped on), quokka (it's a kids plush toy), and the "drop bear" (not actually a bear but a carnivorous marsupial).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well you'd have to be fool enough to believe Australia is a real place to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The BBC did an April Fools day joke along these lines too. Perhaps one is based upon the other.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That so ridiculous it's funny as hell.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

My understanding is any time you have a construction project in a marine environment you can potentially put the local fauna at risk.

The specifics matter, however, and there are ways to mitigate risks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This reeks of astroturfing. I guarantee you the people behind it do not give a fuck about whales or marine life in general. They're the same ones spilling crude oil on the great barrier reef.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Australia there's a push for nuclear even though we have access to some of the best renewables on Earth and it's way more cost effective to use renewables here too.

We even had some annoying ass shill kid doing the rounds in the media with a fake "movement campaign" proportioning to be the "voice of the youth". It turned out the little bastard was the kid of some wealthy family with direct support and ties to the paid off political party here who's pushing nuclear for their masters. He was sprung when some nerd compared the code in his website to that of the political party and large parts of it were identical.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would love someone to make a fake campaing of how oil is killing us all... wait

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Some people are just fodder for manipulation and to do the bidding of others who only care is their profit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, sonar