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[–] [email protected] 258 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think it's all had a bigger impact on Lemmy than it has had on Reddit. The lasting impact might be that Reddit now has viable competition for the first time since Digg, which is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. They do not realize that despite “their traffic being back to normal” they destroyed their monopoly status. It’s a slow rot. But a rot that will kill their value eventually. And I am here for it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On the bright side for them, they still have a commercial monopoly. The number of ads might go up while the quality of the content goes down.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Inertia will keep a train going for a while, as the engine dies.

The people that are now on lemmy were the heaviest users. The ones that bought 5 different apps to improve their experience and figure out which one they preferred : the mods, the creators, etc.

Have they all left Reddit completely? Probably not, but now they split their time. And stats say the proportion on Lemmy is increasing.

We now have an opportunity not only replace but contribute in the creation of something new - new mechanics, new rules and more.

Reddit is tired and has been for a while, Lemmy developers are building the Reddit they always wanted, and are innovating at breakneck speed.

Simple things like Top by 1, 6, 12 hours which we now have here, was badly needed in Reddit but they were too busy trying to shoehorn video and flairs.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I'm okay with this. As long as Lemmy is thriving with good content, that's all I care about.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah. I don't expect Reddit to necessarily collapse immediately, or Lemmy to replace Reddit for all Reddit users. I'm just happy if Lemmy becomes at least a medium-sized social network. That means that it would have moved from a niche platform into a large enough ecosystem to sustain itself, and become a viable alternative to Reddit, like you said.

With a huge platform like Reddit, the impact of the current events might not be instantly obvious. But with everything going on recently with Twitter, Reddit, Mastodon, Lemmy, and even Threads, I think it's clear that there's some kind of transformation of the social media landscape going on. But how long it will take, and what the end result will look like, is anybody's guess. Maybe it's the fall of the old giants and a rise of new, more democratic platforms. Maybe the giants keep standing, but significantly weakened, with a bunch of new, smaller, more open platforms becoming real alternatives. Or maybe it's something else.

Be it as it may, I'm glad that the status quo is being shaken up a bit.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be happy if Lemmy becomes like what Reddit was when it started and never grew beyond that. I don't need tons of clickbait outrage trash to doomscroll though every day.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only thing I really miss from Reddit is a few of the smaller, niche subreddits that had small but active userbases. But that will come with time as the Lemmy userbase grows.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate to see the content we created help fund the pockets of spez and his fellow crooks, but at the same time I'd also hate to see tonnes of possibly the most valuable information on the internet going down the drain. I'll be happier to see Lemmy get to the point where people can say "there's a community for everything" more than seeing the collapse of Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I deleted everything. It's too bad, a lot of searches are going to turn up threads and find blank spaces where the answers should be.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

*pre-2010 Digg

Digg after that was no longer competition. It was an ad-riddled trash-fire which drove a massive number of its users away to places like reddit... including myself... who just kinda did something similar with reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 218 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Dropped Reddit a month ago after 12 years of daily use and while it was tough in the initial days Lemmy/Kbin activity has really picked up and is beginning to absolutely fill the gap. Just need the apps and a bit more stability and think it's going to be a proper successor.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the protest started I poked around the Fediverse and it was a ghost town and was a little concerned that Reddit might not have any competition. But since the end of June posts and content have been going way up, and the quality of the posts is way better than Reddit, even before spez fucked things up.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same here.

There are a few (very few) communities I am still waiting to become active and useful here but Reddit has been moved to page 4 or my social media folder and I rarely ever scroll to it.

Good riddance too. The move to Lemmy/Kbin also pushed me back onto Mastodon and I could not be happier.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 year ago (3 children)

R/ videos got clever, I love it. Thier new rule is

Only text posts describing videos are permitted, and must describe a video in detail. Video links are permitted in the comments only.

That must be interesting haha

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

When a subreddit accidentally does more to help blind redditors than Spez does.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone who primarily used reddit with accessibility apps (RedReader) this would have been awesome.

Sadly, reddit doesn't find me valuable enough to even let me try to use the site in a way that is comfortable for me

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago (30 children)

I cut ties today. I had been a mod in a sub of over 3 million users for years. All reasonable folk on the mod team were gone and a huge fight broke out because I suggested that we "Try to be decent to each other" as if it was the most offensive statement they had ever heard. I have zero regrets leaving that kind of toxicity behind.

[–] AdmiralShat 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the real result. Yeah subs will open back up, but the mods who are left are just weird keyboard warriors who think being a mod is like being a cop (I mean obviously this is a generalization, but it's mostly true) The quality of individual subs is going to suffer and therefore the overall user experience will suffer.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I genuinely don't care. Lemmy has completely replaced reddit for me. I was a hardcore RIF user for over ten years. Connect is amazing and content had been like 90% there but with half the bullshit filler that reddit had. I honestly love it. Fuck protesting, just drop them hoes.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only care in so far as I want to hear every little detail about it falling apart because seeing greedy people losing everything due to their hubris is peak fucking comedy.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Have barely been on there since it started besides to visit subs that havent even attempted to move yet, from what I have heard Reddit is definitely worse now with how many people have left, is that everyone elses perspective as well.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I was under the impression not much had changed because a small minority used 3rd party apps tbh.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Vocal minority though, surely?
I’ve visited a few times on Desktop (old.reddit) since the shutdown and the rate of new content seems to have slowed down quite drastically.

Twitter metrics used to point to 90% of the content coming from 10% of the users.
If Reddit is similar, it makes sense to assume that many of the very active users were on 3rd party apps (to improve the basic experience, moderation etc.) so those being unavailable could put them off entirely (I know I’m using Reddit a fraction of what I once was).

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

some subs are still lively. To be expected, however Lemmy has proven a viable alternative with enough activity to keep me sated, and it's clearly still growing. Every day a new community pops up that reflects a counterpart on Reddit and the remaining niches are quickly being filled right here.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without Apollo on my iPhone and Sync on my android, I'm not using Reddit. Lemmy filled that void. The only thing missing are niche communities. That will come with time.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Dropped Reddit due the API changes and dumsterfire after that with the CEO. I get they need to make money, but this was simply aimed at taking down third party apps and services.

I really hope this place will grow.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The worst thing about it is that they could have accomplished all their goals if they didn't shove it on people with a months notice and then Spaz going on a media tour shitting on mods and users

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is what gets me. Christian Selig pointed out in a number of interviews that Reddit could have easily made this work without alienating a huge segment of their user base. I get this vague feeling lately like CEOs are intentionally trying to tank their products, because no one so well paid could actually act so dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really like Lemmy better than new reddit because scrolling the front page reminds me of 2010-2016 Reddit. I hated when they added ADS and removed the NSFW subs from the front page. Everything about NEW Reddit sucked.

Lemmy fixed new reddit and I ain't going back.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I was an Apollo user when I had an iPhone, then moved to Android and was a Boost user to finally move to Sync, now all of these 3 are dead, do you really think I'd want to keep being active on that "community"?

These devs deserved better, luckily both Android devs moved here, and they will receive the support of their followers, and Apollo already has numerous spiritual successors, Wefwef/Voyager being an awesome PWA and some iOS apps like Memmy and Artemis!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (11 children)

On that point: there is a Boost for Lemmy app in development

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The decisions that Reddit made allowed Lemmy and Kbin to grow faster.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been wanting to cut down on social media/Reddit for ages. Reddit making it a huge inconvenience to look at the site on mobile has been great for me honestly

[–] AdmiralShat 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy is a god send for me. It doesn't have endless content, so after a few minutes and a few comments, I just close it.

I genuinely enjoy NOT having access to the endless dopamine

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I visit it for a couple of subs that are not active on here. For the most part it feels the same. I never really cared for the karma system, gold, etc. So switching to Lemmy for me was more about just trying to find a place not being bombarded by ads, bots, and corporate policies.

I think reddit will survive the Exodus of users simply because Twitter is so badly managed that reddit may actually supplant it for a while. However, the drive to monetize all aspects of our lives is actually getting some push back from users so Lemmy may continue to grow in the next few years.

The biggest issues facing Lemmy isn't content though. It's ease of adoption.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God yes the ads, I just hate how every corner of our existence is being filled with ads. And if it's not an official ad or "sponsored post" it's someone trying to sell stickers on their Etsy or a t shirt bot spamming all and every subreddit. I just really hope those sort of things don't invade here.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If you have been using an adblocker for years and turn it off for a moment, you really see how fucking bad it has become. It's almost like a dystopian movie.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

These kinds of posts remind me exactly of my first few days on reddit post Digg Great Migration. There was a great multipage webcomic made then too.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Something I'd like to share:

I've been periodically checking reddit in my Browser to see what's going on. I commented last week about noticing a sharp decrease in posts on "my" front page. Since then I've observed a few more interesting things.

  1. Late last week, I noticed that multiple subreddits (BORU and PICS in particular) had like 2-4 posts when sorted by "top, 24 hours." It wasn't a case of having to click "next" (I really miss rifs endless scrolling feature...) to navigate to a second page of posts; there was no 2nd page. That was it.

  2. I also noticed that on the mobile website, ads are designed to look nearly identical to posts (imo it was more obvious that they were ads on rif), and most of the time the website would only have 1 or 2 posts before one of these fake ad posts, so your user experience is immediately impacted.

  3. The ads don't seem to be as targeted as they used to be. I used to get ads that seemed to be geared toward me, my searches, and interests. Creepy, but I found it way less annoying than the alternative. Which is apparently a lot of "He Gets Us" and ads for complicated electronics or unnecessary services. Like a mobile vet clinic that isn't even available in my area, lol.

  4. The bot posts are getting obvious and WEIRD. I took screenshots last weekend because just about every other post had a robotic, overly formal, and/or downright confusing title. Here are some examples:


56.3k, front page: "A brain tumour changed her life Her nerves are badly damaged! But today she opened a car door.....walked.....opened a gym door.....walked and sat down ..BY HERSELF what a lady"

[Quotation marks, format, and ellipses are original]


40.5k, front page: The trapped dog doesn't wait a bit to hug the rescuer after being freed..

Same weird ellipses, and the way it's phrased is like a "correct the mistakes" worksheet for 2nd graders.


I think Reddit is in the "find out" stage of their fucking around, even if it's a quiet or subtle change to the casual observer.

I also tried going to ModCoord [I'm not a mod it just felt like a good place to find updates] and, on my end, it looks like almost everything has been deleted. The same day I took screenshots, /r/PICS posted a public response to reddit's threats, which weren't even acknowledged on modcoord. The most recent post I could see was something from GallowBoob? It was really odd.

Is the website being glitchy? Probably. That is, after all, part of the root of this problem. But if anything, I'd say it's pretty clear that the content has decreased in both quality and depth in the last 10 days. Even if a lot of users are still signing in, I don't think they're posting, commenting, or voting as much as they used to. That may be a reflection of the quality of posts, or of users displeasure at the situation, but regardless of where it came from, at least it's something.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (14 children)

New here, I miss using RIF but Connect seems pretty good.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Making reddit go back to their own ways is not victory. We need to get redditors onto Lemmy. It is up to us to use Lemmy and spread its awareness to redditors.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I'll do my part to welcome anyone who joins here, but there are plenty of knuckleheads on reddit who will give you shit for having any kind of principles that take a long term view or make life anything other than blissfully convenient. I have no motivation to try to convince those people.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

They took my reddit is fun away! Actually disgusting imo.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was using reddit less and less, but when the furry subreddits made their way into /r/popular and /r/all that was it for toilet browsing/squat'n'surfing... Seeing a sign for 'werewolf breeding zone' was enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I’ve never cared for furry stuff, but hell, I probably would’ve stayed if I’d gotten anything nearly as hilarious as “werewolf breeding zone” instead of all the religious and techbro crap I was getting through their ads.

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