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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My Firefox and Ublock extension must be living under a rock then because i don't see any ads.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SmartTubeNext on FireTV stick, ReVanced on the phone and Firefox/uBlock origin on the PC. I've only seen the news about this elusive change. At this point I'm curious which ad blockers are not working and what their market share is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ublock actually IS affected by this. I've had it multiple times, that I got blocked. However the uBlock team is extremely fast at adding better filters, and each time I had the problem it only took about an hour until it worked again (though I needed to update the filters manually, since that is normally done only once a day)

So if you weren't watching YT right in those one hour intervalls you wouldn't have noticed it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep seering variations of this post and after the first few I stopped checking youtube to see if my ublock on firefox still does ok.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think it's just google chrome where ublock doesn't work. My friend uses ungoogled chromium and he hasn't seen it either.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Chromium based browsers, (Chrome, Edge) are blocking ad blockers.
Firefox is NOT.
Also, Chrome is not a browser, it is an advertising tracking piece of software that surveils your every click. In the 'olden' days, this was called spyware. It's a piece of software that exploits it's users. It, like spyware, used to be bundled with all kind of other programs. Does anyone remember the line, "Also install Chrome Browser" when you installed other software?
Have a better life, install Firefox and uBlock Origin.
Also Fuck Brave, they are liars.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i will print that comment out and glue it to every bus stop in a 50mile radius

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Claiming Chtome to not be a browser is needlessly hyperbolic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] b_van_b 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Iirc they are also spyware and I recall something abt the token being built into the browser tho I'm not entirely sure what

[–] philm 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have already wondered, why it's still working for me :). Good to know, then it's finally settled, I will stay on Firefox. I hope it will continue to work with adblockers there... (Google has way to much "stake" in Mozilla)

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[–] philm 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Btw. do you know the technical reason why it's still working with Firefox? Does it have to do with this new anti-adblock-API that was recently introduced in Chrome and Safari?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's my understanding. And because Firefox is not chromium based they can't mess with the underlying code. Plus uBlock Origin works better on Firefox and it gets updates faster.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then how come I can still access it?
Using µblock on Firefox in Germany

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I imagine it's like most YouTube updates (if not all) that are rolled out partially to different users through different areas.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point - unless there's a very good reason - I just don't interact with YouTube's site or app anymore.

I hope YouTube pulls a Reddit, and federated video services get the same bump. Creators can plug NordVPN, Brilliant, and Wix just as well on PeerTube, and we won't have to watch dumbass political ads anymore.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (15 children)

You underestimate the cost and complexity of video streaming.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't have experience with any of those, YouTube is still ad free for me luckily, but how plausible would a completely peer hosted video streaming service be? Like TOR based or something like that where it's the collective of all the users hosting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Realistically? Virtually impossible. Youtube handles petabytes of data daily, and just the storage capacity would burn the money of everyone but the big corporations. There simply isn't a way to compete with a corporation that can afford to throw millions at a machine that doesn't make profit enough to cover those massive costs.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just plausible, it already exists. See joinpeertube.org . There are more than 1000 instances already. Just need more content creators (some are already dual-posting, or migrated entirely).

There's also LBRY, but it operates on some goofy-ass crypto scheme, so I assume it will fail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dope, I'll check it out, although it might be slow growth right now, YouTube for a lot of people like me is hard to break. I've got years and years of saved videos, subscriptions, watch history, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but you are here, instead of reddit. It's possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That kind of goes more to my point though, Reddit got to the point where there was nothing to lose by leaving, YouTube is headed there, but not yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I 100% agree. Right now, people are just kind of mildly irritated. My irritation is more than mild, hence my leaving entirely.

I'm just speculating now, but it's possible that the Google anti-trust might result in YouTube spinning off again. If they also see that coming, they might be trying to backstop it while they still have time and resources to try things (cutting off adblockers, increasing premium fees, they already changed how rev-sharing eligibility and payouts work, etc).

There's a high chance that they're going to make the wrong move and piss everyone off, or people will just stop putting up with 2 minutes of unskippable ads before, then again during, then after each video. Content will start getting pirated en masse, advertiserzers will drop (or pay less, or force even more ads to compensate, which is what already happened), and the cycle will continue and get worse until the service just collapses under it's own weight.

Something will take it's place. Probably multiple things. I just hope federated services are among them. Hell, people adopted Crypto ferociously, which was extremely expensive and completely useless. Even if federated video is expensive, at least it does something.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] quekk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend https://grayjay.app/ you can follow creators cross platform and watch yt without ads

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I would totally give them some money for it if I watched more yt on my phone, but I rarely ever do that. They desperately need a desktop version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

you use youtube with adblock because it is a great repository of information without having to deal with ads

i use youtube with adblock because it costs google money

we are not the same

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Just don’t use youtub.

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