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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They can vocalise more than just their names, so if anything, they're Digimon.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

now THATS a hot take. "Pokemon are Digimon."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

That's not what he said. He said humans are Digimon, not Pokémon. Pokémon are Yugiohs, duh.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think this is true, there's some Pokémon that speak normal language like meowth, lucario, legendaries etc...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they're few and far between. Every Digimon can talk.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every human can talk because they were taught. Meowth couldn't talk until he taught himself how(to try and impress a girl meowth 😭). Humans don't teach their Pokemon to speak, and most don't have the inclination to teach themselves. So for all we know every Pokemon is capable of human speech if they were taught.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Eh Idk I feel like it would be more common if that was the case

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Only those who have beaten the Pokémon league can be digimon. Because in order to be a digimon you must be the champion

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk i think that's just how Pokemon moo or whatever and the names are onomatopoetic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Pikachu speak at the very least has some structure to it. "Pika-Pi" is Ash's name, for instance.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In lore it says humans and Pokemon used to be indistinguishable. So probably yeah

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then in Legends Arceus suddenly humans barely understood how to interact with Pokemon barely a few hundred years before modern times. What genius came up with that nonsense?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like they've been forgoring since around gen 7. There's been a weird shift in how the relationship between humans and Pokemon has been written for a while now and I don't like it. But that's a schizopost for another time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think the main issue is that not even Gamefreak has their facts straight.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't humans also marry and breed with Pokémon?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...I try not to think about that part.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've seen a LOT of visual evidence if this...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So are you saying there's a change of marrying vulpix or eevee?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vaporeon most likely if I have my facts straight

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Hey! Did you know that in terms of...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A guy Brundleflyed himself with one.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, as regular animals exist in the Pokemon world, too. The original games had cats and dogs in some houses. The cartoon showed non Pokemon birds flying alongside pidgeys and such.

The original games also made the claim that Pokemon came from space. They only showed up after a meteorite.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought they retconned that in later seasons of the anime though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which part? That Pokemon came from space or the inclusion of common animals like dogs and cats? I didn't even know the show continued beyond my high school years until I saw all the talk about the show finally ending recently so I personally have no idea what they changed but the recent games I have played make the origin of the pokemon more mystical.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

As far as I'm aware, the inclusion of real-world animal species in the older anime and games was due to the lack of variety in existing Pokemon species. The last time I know they referred to a real animal was in 2016, where the Pokedex entry for Raichu says it can knock out an Indian elephant. More recently, Raichu's Pokedex entry was updated to instead say it can incapacitate a Copperajah.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Can you put normal animals in a pokeball or is the tech bound to the specific alien dna of pokemons and can humans be put in pokeballs, and how dos this all fit in human trafficking technology?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pokeballs get really sinister when you think about them too deeply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Pokemon is glorified dog fighting.

But wait, it gets worse. Do Pokemon experience time inside the pokeballs? It's so, they're essentially spend 99% of their life in prison.

If not, then nearly all their life is spent fighting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yes. Because answering "no" is more troublesome.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 7 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I thought Pokémon were not animals at all but their own beings separate from the animal kingdom

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pokemon aren't "animals", they're kami.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Cirno is a Pokemon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think they have normal animals as well as Pokemon in the Pokemon world though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

There are a handful of shots of regular fish in underwater scenes but that's probably due to lazy animators that didn't give a shit about the franchise they were working on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Eh, pretty much only the first seasons of the anime reference non-pokemon animals. All the media for the past 20 years only mention other Pokemon when talking about food, prey, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A true philosopher

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And the gods are the trainers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Today, we hunt he most dangerous Pokémon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Aren't there non-pokemon animals in pokemon?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

all humans are animals

all dogs are animals

therefore humans are dogs

not a very good argument imo

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

but that's just straight up not the same logic at all

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're doing all A are in C, all B are in C =⟩ A is in B, which makes no sense and isn't what they said.

They said all A are in B, all B are in C =⟩ A are in C, which is true by the transitive property.

All humans are animals

All animals are Pokemon

Therefore all humans are Pokemon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All humans are animals All dogs are animals Not all animals are dogs Not animals are humans But all the animals in modern Pokemon are Pokemon So the question is Does animal == Pokemon If so human are Pokemon But if animal != Pokemon Then humans != Pokemon and human == animal