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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Non-commercial," AKA give us all your hard work for free. No subscriptions, you won't be compensated for your work. How are you supposed to make enough to support your app as a dev in this scenario? You're not. It's all PR damage control and it's pathetic. Once again trying to profit off free labour.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do they define "accessibility app". It sounds like almost every third party app is more accessible than the official app. So they're all addressing accessibility needs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Smells like damage control.

They seem to be pretty bad at damage control.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stickied comment here is what /r/Blind, one of the most prominent fighters for the accessibility features, has to say about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/13zr8h2/reddits_recently_announced_api_changes_and_the/jnbkjed/

They weren't even invited.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

When you think of it it's easy for /r/blind to go blackout

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I believe it's a bait.

Over at r/ModCoord they say they held a private call with some developers, none of the 3rd party apps devs were invited apparently.

There's a sticky post containing full notes of the call (I don't know if it's ok to link reddit here so I won't), their promises are really vague, "promising" to let some apps use the API for free is only one of them, they're offering to postpone the API changes if mods don't close the subs, and they're making a lot of excuses for their very lacking tools, "promising" they'll do better this time.

If we consider they're going public later this year, it makes sense they're trying to damage control as much as possible so the protest doesn't ruin their IPO, while actually having no intention to follow up on their words.

If magazines start picking up on their empty words, like the article you linked, it could appear redditors are protesting for nothing, that would be really sad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

so the protest doesn't ruin their IPO

OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH that's why they're nuking everything. It's only going to get worse once shareholders are involved. Guess I'll stay on Lemmy then. shrug

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/askhistorians has a good post about Reddit promises as well as other information about the API change here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's a really good explanation (if not one of the best IMO) focusing on the effects from a mod perspective. Not surprising that they've got a handy record of Reddit's many past failed promises too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would describe Apollo as an accessibility app in the sense that the regular Reddit app is unusable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think this only applies to non-commercial apps. Since Apollo has a subscription I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They also send 7 million dollar estimate to community app with no monetization or ads so you can't take what they say to face value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@RadDevon Nothing more than a thinly veiled acknowledgement of the current protest.

Doesn't matter if they extend it from July to September, it's _still_ going to be implemented. What a joke of a website.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

all the data are mine all the money is mine. mine. mine. mine.

a totalitarian content vacuum, they created nothing : everything is written by you, linked by you and curated by you and now they want to charge you for looking at it.

what the fuck happened to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So include accessibility features in your already existing third party app and problem solved? Or does it need to be an app exclusively for people with disabilities?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Non-commercial" is still going to kill all development for all the third party apps regardless. This is surprisingly worse than their original decision, because now they can try and pretend like it's other people's problems to make their website accessable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's not true. There are open source 3rd-parties like Infinity that are non-commercial.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Infinity is awesome, I'm really going to miss it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The developer hasn't said Infinity's being killed afaik, he appears to be considering having users enter their own Reddit API keys, although really that's going to be a barrier for some

https://www.reddit.com/r/Infinity_For_Reddit/comments/13xb61g/how_will_infinity_react_to_new_api_cost_will_this/jmqnwzp/

This isn't a viable solution in my opinion though, depending on whatever restrictions Reddit chooses. Atm we know the new API won't allow access to NSFW labelled content, but there could be other limitations coming when users start plugging their own keys into apps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I have no idea what "entering your own API key" even means, so yeah, definitely a barrier for me

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's to stop all 3rd party app users migrating to accessibility focused 3rd party apps rather than the 1st party one?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"non-commercial". Resumable that means the app devs can't make money from it. Which excludes many of the most popular apps