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A month after a pig heart transplant, man works to regain strength with no rejection so far::It's been a month since a Maryland man became the second person to receive a transplanted heart from a pig


and hospital video released Friday shows he's working hard to recover.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Growing genetically modified pigs with human-like hearts to save human lives? The ethics of that are a bit complicated, but from a STEM perspective it's a really fascinating idea. What a time to be alive.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's nothing ethically wrong with this until we consider eating meat unethical. As a society, we're nowhere near that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're breeding and killing an animal for its organs, and some would find that unethical. But you are doing it to save a human life, so it's a bit of a trolley problem I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not less ethical than doing it for meat, is my point.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Especially since a pig raised for organ transplant probably has way better living conditions than a pig raised for meat in an industrial farm.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

That's literally what the meat industry is though. I guess in americanized cultures more of the animal is seen as waste parts rather than food, but those probably become hot dogs anyways.

Anyways, the way I see it meat for eating, and even pig organ transplants are both raising a pig to put parts of its body into a human's body.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it different from breeding and killing an animal to eat it?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

I would argue it's more ethically defendable. There are lots of meatless alternatives to eat. A viable hearts for transplant are scarce and if you need one then you NEED one.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (35 children)

As much as I love animals (more than most people I meet), as a species we must value human life over animal life to some extent. Suffering for corporate exploitation? No, that's cruel and evil. Minimal suffering in an organism to save a human life? I wish there was a way to keep it from being sentient (so no suffering is felt), but I believe it's a fair trade for a human life. But yes, we must always strive to minimize the suffering we cause.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I hope we get to mass manufacturing lab grown hearts quickly. No need to harm sentients.

1 Star Trek replicator please!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Easy just grow cabbages with human-like hearts to appease the vegans.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See ? show this to the next person who says 'ACAB'

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I doubt this pig opted-in to the donation. If it wasn't a choice, it doesn't make them good.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

We all know he has a gold sword somewhere in his house.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Same guy gonna rush to the doctor after his heart rate hits 200 while staring at some mud

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has he gained any pig-like superpowers so far?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"Spider Pig, Spider Pig, Does whatever a Spider Pig does..."

I'm surprised and mildly disappointed no one else commented this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why pig hearts? Is it just a size issue?

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pig organs are approximately the same size and configuration as human ones. They also share a very similar immune system and biochemistry. We also have experience breeding and genetically modifying them. This makes them the easiest option to modify for human use. Still not easy, but easiest.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oh so animal farm was literal?

[–] riskable 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Unexpected Lol. Well done.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Skill issue, actually

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

South Park certainly didn't hold back on that episode 😂

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Man, and I thought I had bacon in my heart

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Maryland team last year performed the world's first transplant of a heart from a genetically altered pig into another dying man.

What is this sentence? The word "another" implies either this man wasn't the first or that a "genetically altered pig" is legally considered dying man.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The man in the first four paragraphs of the article, Lawrence Faucette, is the second dying man to receive a genetically modified pig heart. The first dying man, referred to in your quote, only survived two months but the heart failed, possibly due to a virus in the heart that came from the pig.

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