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[–] [email protected] 163 points 11 months ago (29 children)

Maybe if they didn’t make the Mustang a goddamned SUV it wouldn’t torch itself trying to haul its fat ass around

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Car manufacturers love the SUV/crossover format for EVs because they find it easier to fit the batteries in with the higher clearance.

There's a reason why they're all going for it, despite middling enthusiasm from buyers.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is hilarious. They obviously didn’t realize their target audience was drivers who don’t know how to handle a muscle car 😂

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (8 children)

The newer mustangs are not muscle cars. They are suvs pretending to be muscle cars

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

All the bulk of an SUV without the ease of getting in and out.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Mustang just got a dad body

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea why they called this entirely different car a mustang.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because nostalgia sells cars to boomers.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How do you fuck up your battery design by under-specing high voltage connections in an EV of all things?

JFC, Ford, can you try to sabotage the EV conversion more?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Well you see, making those conductors undersized saved us $1 per unit, which allowed us to get the lower bid, and increase shareholder value at the time. Now, of course, is a different financial quarter and what we did before doesn't matter."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guarantee there's a spreadsheet at Ford that does the math on whether saving that $1 per unit is worth it considering the chance of a recall. Looks like their gamble didn't pay off.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So Ford didn't know their mustang owners tend to drive a bit recklessly? The analogies here are plentiful. Smith & Wesson knowing their weapons are used in crimes... McDonald's knowing their food will turn you fat...

If the gas pedal goes down X-inches, a mustang drive will press the pedal down X-inches +1

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Stick shift is better because when you push all three pedals to the floor, the car sounds real fast!"

- Mustang Drivers, probably

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would they? It's not a Mustang. It's a hatchback EV with extra ground clearance to pretend it's an SUV.

Over 70% of buyers are first time Ford customers. There isn't much of any overlap in buyers between an actual Mustang and the Mach E.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I was just driving around my city to make some extra cash on uber, and there is too many mach e owners here who spin the tires from stop and around corners, accelerate to 90s on the bridges even the ones that go up vertically and curves, which takes a lot of power and tire grip to do. These men and women are worse than bmw, porsche or sports car owners.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I tried to get my wife to pick a Mach E over the Ioniq 5 and failed. The Ioniq 5 has its issues but now I'm getting like we dodged a bullet.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Buying a new model year of a new car has always been a massive risk. The risk of recall maintenance is pretty high.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

My preference is 3-5 years old but my wife really REALLY wanted this car and it was the right price. She loves it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

FYI, when driving the Ioniq 5 in one-pedal mode, the brake lights don't come on until the car is almost at a complete stop.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Supposedly the latest software update fixes that but we haven't done the patch yet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

God damn it, it’s 2023 and critical functions of cars don’t work because of SOFTWARE bugs, I wanna cry.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Couldn't charge our Ioniq 5 at home for a little over a month until they updated the software. And now it charges just slower, sucks. But my wife doesn't drive that far so it's working for us.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Hyundai slaps ford these days. The ionic is a better car in every area.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Aw, I was looking into the Ioniq 5 and decided to just wait and spend my extra cash on a different green thing (Hvac). It looks so... Interesting, was it worth the price tag?

I was feeling like I was getting strong armed into Tesla because of fed tax credit, too; hoping the choices open up a bit more...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My wife loves it, and you know happy wife and all. I like my car better but I'm not an SUV person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Honestly i e yet to hear someone who owns an ioniq5 not love it.

I couldn't pull the trigger on a trade. Not enough range and infrastructure, plus the rate of tech improvement is still pretty quick. I went with a plugin hybrid with the hopes that i can trade it in once evs get a bit more settled.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)

I was looking at the Ioniq 5 but ultimately went for the ID.4

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Any big issues aside from the whole 12v battery dying thing?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The flaw does not exist in models 2022 and newer. Older models are getting fixed. From the pictures, the unit is directly attached to the battery right in the front. It should be trivial for mechanics to get to.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

This is Elon's fault and is why you shouldn't buy a Tesla.

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