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I tried to get my wife to pick a Mach E over the Ioniq 5 and failed. The Ioniq 5 has its issues but now I'm getting like we dodged a bullet.
Buying a new model year of a new car has always been a massive risk. The risk of recall maintenance is pretty high.
My preference is 3-5 years old but my wife really REALLY wanted this car and it was the right price. She loves it.
FYI, when driving the Ioniq 5 in one-pedal mode, the brake lights don't come on until the car is almost at a complete stop.
Supposedly the latest software update fixes that but we haven't done the patch yet.
God damn it, it’s 2023 and critical functions of cars don’t work because of SOFTWARE bugs, I wanna cry.
Couldn't charge our Ioniq 5 at home for a little over a month until they updated the software. And now it charges just slower, sucks. But my wife doesn't drive that far so it's working for us.
Try and find me a car that has never had any hardware bugs.
Actually, don't, because you fucking can't because such a thing doesn't exist.
…when did I say anything about hardware bugs??? A car having wiring problems is tangible, and easily solved by myself or my mechanic.
But break lights (something that is literally needs to respond to physical pressure and requires no software to operate) not working because of lines of code, and can only be solved by whether or not a car manufacturer can be assed to fix it, is kind of wack.
Actually the brake lights work exactly as you describe.
The problem is that the car is able to slow down quickly without applying the brakes (common with EVs) and doesn't engage the brake light when driving with that behavior (one pedal mode)
It isn't actually required to engage the brake light, because the regulation states that the light needs to be illuminated when applying the physical brakes, not when slowing down.
This isn't a software bug, it's a design oversight, which can be fixed by changing the design, something that used to require a recall and physical change to the car.
By yourself... or a mechanic. You know, a trained and qualified professional that has access to the tools and materials necessary to fix a problem.
Kind of like how a programmer is a trained and qualified professional that has the tools and materials necessary to fix a problem, except that they're directly employed by the maker of the product rather than a reseller of the product.
Not that any of that fucking matters, because the point is that BUGS ARE IN EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE, AT ALL TIMES and it's just ignorant-ass to pretend like somehow cars aren't the same way and, more importantly, haven't ALWAYS been this way.
Bro you really think someone is a professional mechanic because they can fix their own car wiring or change their oil? Should I open a car repair shop because I replaced the stereo in my car by myself?
You're what's meant by the term "functionally illiterate." You know the words, you can read them, but you're too much of an emu-pounder to understand them.
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"By yourself... OR a mechanic."
Shut the fuck up until you can read English.
It does, they also released the update for the other E-GMP platform cars.
I don't know what the second part means... Can you say more?
E-gmp is the shared EV platform for Kia and Hyundai. Various electric cars such as the Ioniq 5 & Kia ev6 are built on the ‘e-gmp’ platform which means that they share the wheelbase, chassis, battery, motor, etc etc.
Either that or the car comes wrapped in leather with a fucking ballgag idk. Could have picked a better name imo
🤣, yeah the name is terrible and made me thing of Ving in Pulp Fiction.
That’s not true at all. It was one of the first things we tested out when we got ours in January. You have to let off at a specific rate, essentially it was trying to replicate engine braking since that also does not result in your brake lights come on. A later software update has also made it come on earlier if you’re braking lighter.
Hyundai slaps ford these days. The ionic is a better car in every area.
I was looking at the Ioniq 5 but ultimately went for the ID.4
Man what do you people do for a living that you can drop this kind of money on a car?
Embedded systems engineering, for a couple decades, mostly high-salary locations.
Do you like it? Volkswagen makes that right? We see a lot of them at the chargers.
Yeah, it's a VW. I really like it, not just because I got a premium trim and it's the fanciest thing I've ever owned, but it drives just like an ICE car, and the important controls aren't buried behind the touchscreen. Looking forward to this winter to see how it fares with lower temps and handles in the snow with AWD.
I drove an ID.3 for a year and was quite let down. Range estimation is always 25-30% over the real range, especially worse in winter. All controls were touch controls. Is this the same for the ID4?
Some controls are tactile, some are touch-based. Range estimation is always optimistic in every car no matter the fuel source, and I ignore it in lieu of my own mental calculations. I am looking forward to my first winter with the car.
I love my 2022. Wish there were an actual control for the wheel heater (added for 2024) but I’ve memorised the tap sequence to toggle it and have it set to turn on automatically, along with the seat heater, when it’s cold enough.
It’ll drive the same but have less range, like all EVs do. Batteries lose efficiency when they’re cold. Precondition the cabin before you unplug for the day, and that will help some.
I only plug in every few weeks when the battery hits 20%. Would plugging in nightly in the winter make a significant difference? Is there a specific temperature where the efficiency curve drops off?
What sold you over the ioniq 5? I've been looking at the new ID.7 and the Ioniq 5. The 400v battery architecture is the only thing really holding me back from 100% committing to the ID.7
VW had a special offer with the EV tax credit and offered me a generous trade-in value for my GTI.
Why does the battery voltage matter?
Higher battery voltage can charge faster and drive motors more efficiently (don't quote me on that part). That's why the Ioniq can do the really fast DC fast charging. For home charging it doesn't really matter, but on long distance trips that's less time spent charging.
I may be placing too much importance in that aspect since I have little experience with ev's.
Ah, I understand now. Higher voltage means more power can be delivered at a lower current, with current being the limiting factor in cabling, so a faster fast charge is possible. If you foresee yourself always fast-charging and really needing those twelve minutes each time, that's a valid concern. In my experience, the vast majority of charging occurs overnight at home, where time is not a limiting factor.
Aw, I was looking into the Ioniq 5 and decided to just wait and spend my extra cash on a different green thing (Hvac). It looks so... Interesting, was it worth the price tag?
I was feeling like I was getting strong armed into Tesla because of fed tax credit, too; hoping the choices open up a bit more...
My wife loves it, and you know happy wife and all. I like my car better but I'm not an SUV person.
Honestly i e yet to hear someone who owns an ioniq5 not love it.
I couldn't pull the trigger on a trade. Not enough range and infrastructure, plus the rate of tech improvement is still pretty quick. I went with a plugin hybrid with the hopes that i can trade it in once evs get a bit more settled.
Which one did you get? Those are still better for the environment than a full EV which is probably why Toyota doesn't offer a full EV yet.
My wife just hates getting gas, silly I know.
I got the prius prime 2022 because I'm a small car guy. It's good. The Rav4 has more range on it in electric mode, but the prius still gets ~52-58mpg in gas mode.
The one thing you gotta watch out for is the infotainment. I have the xle, which has this big beautiful screen, but only works with carplay. Yep, DOES NOT WORK WITH ANDROID AUTO. It's insane. This is an aspect ratio thing, so might be fixed in the future? Not holding out hope for that though.
I do love the map thing, but man its so annoying not to be able to connect my phone with Google maps since their nav system is worse.
Oh that would drive my nuts! The 2015 version of my car is the same way but you could take the module from a 2016 though 2019 and put it in an earlier year and fix that.
It's on my list to do but I haven't yet. Maybe this winter when I can't really drive my car I'll do it.
And the Prius is a great car for that. A friend of ours is addicted to them, she's on her third one I think. She wants the newest one with all the hash tags but she's not willing to pay that much. Maybe when used ones become normal prices again?
Prices are crazy. Someone totaled my old car so i didn't really have a choice. I am glad i got the 2022 and not the new version, that one looks like has way less trunk space and if rather do an ioniq than no trunk space prius.
You're saying you'd rather have trunk space than hashtags all over the place? That's an odd decision 😂
Toyota doesn't have full EVs because they bet big on hydrogen a few years ago, which didn't pay off and has left them scrambling to catch up. There's no more logic to it than that.
Any big issues aside from the whole 12v battery dying thing?
We haven't had that issue yet. We couldn't charge the car at home because the port on the car got too hot. The fix was software the slowed down the charge which works for us because my wife doesn't drive far but it still sucks.
My biggest complaint is no rear wiper, the rear glass gets so dirty so fast and we don't go to gas stations with it to clean it. Next year's model will have one. Otherwise it's really nice in traffic, far easier than my manual car is.
I haven’t encountered that and they have a recall out for it so you can go get it fixed for free at your service center.