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a.k.a. the 90–9–1 principle. Does the Fediverse follow this rule, or are there more creators here as early adopters? Are you a creator, a participator or a lurker?

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[–] [email protected] 282 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm a lurker, but I'm going to try to participation more.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yep. Lurker here. In the sense that I upvote but don’t post or create content. I am just not witty enough to make a joke or creative enough to write a long winded content. But I do what I do and I think it’s alright.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nice thing about this right now is that you don't need to feel witty or creative to post stuff as long as it fits the community you're in. There aren't enough people to compete with for posts to get attention, that's the main attraction to smaller social media environments: you feel like you matter more.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd wager most posters also just repost content rather than make original content. I post often to c/undertale_deltarune but it's just fanart made by others (with credit of course). And I think it goes without saying that most memes are just reposts.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was like that on Reddit, but that was partly because it’s SO heavily trafficked and there are so many comments within any given post that you either have to be in at the start or make a popular post to have any effect upon discussion. And by “discussion” I mean more using a loudspeaker: there’s little meaningful back and forth, just presentations.

Smaller communities allow for more forum-like interaction.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have been posting and commenting a LOT more than I ever did on Reddit. Some small part of that is a desire to grow the platform and my communities.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I've commented more here than I did the past 9 years on Reddit. I also created Watch Party, where people can watch a movie together and discuss it in a live thread, similar to sporting events. Starship Troopers was the proof of concept, and it was a fun time. I'm hoping it'll gain some more traction in the coming months and encourage anyone to check out the pinned "Getting Started" post if you're interested in hosting a watch party as well.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Good bot.

Also: Good! Bots! This is the first one I've seen.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Full time lurker. Part time commenter. No time creator.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same here, I think I posted like two things in my 15 years of Reddit to ask a question but I did comment now and then. I imagine it'll be similar on Lemmy, as much as it needs content I got nothing to really add.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm primarily a lurker. I've been trying to be better about participating lately because I'd like to help the fediverse grow and be a meaningful online meeting place.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same! As an introvert it is not easy though.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is me too! I can be the quiet type even online. I enjoy sitting back and reading the discussion more than participating. Let's see if I can break the habit though.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I admit it: I'm a lurker 99% of the time. I do partake in the up- and downvoting though.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

I mean...creating stuff takes work. Even commenting is a lot harder than mindlessly scrolling memes. My head hurts now.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I lead a mostly boring life. And the interesting parts would invade more privacy more than I care to expose. I'd love to post content. But I know better than to let too much of myself out. I already expose too much as is, but it can be worse. And nothing good comes from that.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Definitely a lurker. I rarely have anything I want to show off, and I like reading other people's opinions and content.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a lurker. Because idk what to say most of the time

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Consider the opposite. Every single person on the planet making 10 posts per day. It would be like Facebook on super meth.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a lurker until I get called out like this

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I feel the urge to comment

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And now I feel the urge to reply to this comment.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better than having me contribute garbage content and drowning out good content with my garbage. I'll post when I have something worth posting

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Major lurker. Usually don't even comment. Trying to comment more here, though.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm a lurker unless something actually impassions me to discuss

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't really have much to say often, and I don't want to just make low quality comments/content.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

The rule doesn't apply to early adopters, due to the self-selection effect.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm a lurker doing a little posting/commenting to "be the change I want to see" so to speak. If lemmy gets bigger, I will likely return to my lurker ways.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dont mean to be a lurker but i have nothing interesting to post. All the juicy stuff in my life is stuff that id rather not make pubic.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I 99% lurk, 9% participate, and 1% post.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The question seems to imply that this ratio is problematic, but it is in fact fine.

There this sense now that “being a creator” has intrinsic value, but this value is an artifact of platforms that exploit its users creations. So much so that we now have an immense amount of low quality fast food grade, in fact toxic, content. Content pollution.

So, whatever the ratio is. If you want to post post, if you want to comment comment, if you want to lurk lurk.

As long as we are all enjoying the experience, who cares?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only say something if I have something to say. And the larger platform gets, the harder it gets to be heard.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

How do people like I fit in? People who comment a lot and occasionally post stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Maybe part of what makes TikTok so powerful, how it categorizes videos in an addicting way, is that it turns the lurkers into contributors/voters by using watch time as a proxy for voting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm trying my hardest. I've never created a sub but now I'm creating communities, making add-ons and trying to post. Freedom here of corporate interests is awfully nice. The fediverse is expanding but we're already seeing contracting due to the influx in early June... we definitely had community sprawl. However that was expected. Many communities are doing great! It's great to see!!!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trust me, I have zero worth to post anyways. And even if I did, someone else would have posted it well before I had chance.

Not to mention my views are often not agreed with (GIF is pronounced with a hard G and I will die on this hill!).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

i'm usually a lurker because i usually don't have anything important to add to the discussion; i don't really want to leave a lot of empty/useless comments around

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm almost always a lurker, but I feel like there's a difference when it comes to how participation occurs in fediverse communities versus the majority of mainstream social media platforms. It seems that many people here are genuinely interested in creating a space for quality discussion and healthy communities which motivates me to interact, whereas it's hard to feel like anything you come across is organically presented to you on platforms that are profit driven that aim to be as addicting as possible. All forms of social media have issues imo but this is it in one of the most accessible and least gameified, corpritizied forms

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was def a lurker on reddit. Here I have been trying to post and comment where I can. I don't create art or anything like that, so my submission are mostly memes, discussions in niche instances, and a news article here and there.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I'm mostly a lurker, pretty rarely commenting and posting even less, but I'm trying to be more active on lemmy. I just don't feel like I ever have anything interesting to contribute to any discussion.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am an NPC and proud of it

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I was a lurker until just now when I made my account. This is literally my first post on my lemmy.world account.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Variants include the 1–9–90 rule (sometimes 90–9–1 principle or the 89:10:1 ratio),[1] which states that in a collaborative website such as a wiki, 90% of the participants of a community only consume content, 9% of the participants change or update content, and 1% of the participants add content.

I've heard mods say it's like that on Reddit: 1% create posts, 9% comment on posts, and the rest lurk. Many people have suggested that the people most likely to leave Reddit because of the recent issues are in that 10% of posters and commentators.

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