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Personally, I stopped caring about benchmarks years ago. Real world usability and, more importantly, battery life are what make or break a phone for me.
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
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I don't really care about benchmark, however I care about modem specs and hardware and the 8 modem is definitely lacking.
Benchmarks could become interesting in seven years when the Pixel 8 will still get software support. Making this big promise and starting off with this mediocre SoC is either brave or....not very foreseeing.
That's quite a bottleneck and efficiency can't tackle every software challenge from here to the year 2030.
Wasn't there already a feature or two that the "old" Pixel predecessor won't receive?
Woah, so that's nearly half the FPS compared to SD8Gen2, and about 3/4th of Gen1. :/
Funny how one of the criticisms against the Xiaomi 13T Pro I posted about a few days ago was the Dimensity 9200+ SOC.
I've never heard anybody complain about the SOC in Pixel phones.
Yet the Dimensity 9200+ SOC in the Xiaomi 13T Pro is way faster and more efficient than Tensor G2 in the Pixel 7, and remains faster and more efficient than Tensor G3 in the Pixel 8. In fact it's only beat by Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 on Android.
"except for the SOC" https://lemmy.world/post/6513457 Top comment, 9 upvotes?
But no one comments about the way weaker SOC for the Pixel phone?!?!
https://lemmy.world/post/6286959?scrollToComments=true
So a slightly weaker SOC in the Xiaomi 13T Pro than the absolute best in any Android phone is worse, than a way worse SOC in the Pixel 8 Pro that is way more expensive?
The Pixel 8 Pro Tensor G3 doesn't even match the 2 years older Snapdragon 8 gen 1 which came out in q4 2021.
There are a multitude of reasons I personally wouldn't buy a Xiaomi, most notable of which is data security concerns. But the SOC performance isn't one of them.
I wonder if you got hit with a little corporate astroturfing? I doubt there are many corps on Lemmy yet but if your post is findable by a search engine it's only a matter of time before they arrive, if they haven't already.
Maybe bad perception? Mediatek for a long time produced a bunch of cheap chips. Kinda like if UniSoc produced a Snapdragon 8 G2 killer, I think plenty will be sceptical, me included.
Yes I understand some may have security concerns, we debated that too, that's not the point here. The point was specifically the criticism of the SOC, which IMO is absolutely stellar.
I'm surprised there is absolutely zero criticism in a major thread on the Pixel 8 here with 145 posts. When the Tensor chips are clearly worse on both speed and efficiency? Considering how much attention the issue got regarding the Xiaomi 13T Pro, despite it's both cheaper and has a way better SOC.
Maybe astroturfing is an issue, but it is illegal in almost all countries, so I hope not.
Performance I don't give a shit.
But efficiency I care a lot especially in a laptop. Much more on the phone.
Pixel 5 with a 3 year old mid range SoC can run android 14 UI at 90 FPS pretty much fine.
That's a perspective I didn't consider
Yeah so for Pixel 8 you just need a bit more for 120Hz instead of 90Hz.
A different story is for gaming. But for mobile gaming I'm more a fan of Steam Deck or Nintendo Switch. Devices that have higher TDP.
Please just use snapdragon and I’ll buy a pixel
They won't. They used to do that prior to the 6. They are able to offer longer support and they claim more features (AI and camera mostly I think) this way.
I thought it was marketing BS at first, but the responsiveness of AI related tasks on my Pixel 7 is much better than any phone I've ever used. Voice-to-text is almost never wrong, and processes just as fast as you speak. The photo editing, OCR, Lens search, and all the other random features that are time and time again extremely useful are snappy as hell.
I don't play games on my phone outside of BTD6 and random ones when I'm bored on an airplane, but they've all ran fine without hitching. At the top end the phone is behind, but it's just not my use case to run games at 200 FPS on mobile.
Pixels have always been a software first phone with features that seem niche but actually turn out to be extremely useful. This is the first phone I've had that I can use to improve my interactions with the real world in a meaningful way, and it's very clear that is the direction the Pixel is heading towards.
I've only used the live translate feature once, but when I did it felt magical. I was able to communicate with someone who only spoke Mandarin, in English, almost as fast as if we both spoke a common language. It's probably the closest thing we have to a universal translator device and it was awesome.
With that said I'm one person, and I completely understand some people need a powerful phone, but I think for most the processor is more than enough, and they could benefit from the extra features.
Why, what's wrong with their chip - genuine question? Something can only get better through iterative design and refinement.
I don't care about gaming performance on a phone, but battery life in Pixel 7 have been worse than in competitors like Galaxy S23.
This Tensor G3 chip doesn't even match the 2 years older Snapdragon 8 gen 1 from 2021.
There are cheaper phones with way better SOC like the new Dimensity 9200+ Which is both faster and more efficient.
The Pixel Phone is a cool phone in some ways, but the SOC absolutely isn't on par with what other companies have. At best it would be ranked fourth after Apple, Qualcomm and Mediatek who are all way ahead.
Better at what though. I think it's all relative. I've had no set backs I can ever think of using my Pixels. Image processing I guess could be quicker, but is that really a deal breaker?
Either faster or more power efficient. Compared to the Pixel 8 Pro / Tensor G3, there are options that are better at both.
Efficiently does nothing? Could be worse.
You're right it definitely isn't exciting news though