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$25 to rent the movie, one watch within max 24 hours after you start watching it... Or $5 more to own it. Scammers.

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[–] [email protected] 233 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No you are mistaken with "Or $5 mire to own it". You own a license to watch for the amount of time the platforms decides to keep it up.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then, when they remove it, they offer you a measly $5 gift card only redeemable on their platform.

[–] JackbyDev 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On that last post where someone got a refund they gave a full refund as a gift card and an additional 5 euro gift card.

(Not saying it's an okay think to do, just in case you're referencing it.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A gift card isn't a refund

It also doesn't change the false implication they would "own" the digital copy

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Spending $30 to own a brand new movie that just came out is not something I have a problem with.

However, not being able to download a copy of the movie you purchased is where I take issue.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

$30 to own the movie is valid, but for $5 less, you're only allowed 1 watch within 24 hours of starting. Something like that shouldn't be basically the same price as the movie. With pricing like this, they basically force you to spend the extra $5. There isn't even a point to rent the movie and they know that.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you said “cheaper” I was not expecting like NEARLY HALF THE PRICE

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I'm back to buying discs for the movies I want to support. Then I can always hang on to a copy no matter where it might live on streaming apps.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I absolutely agree! Renting a movie should cost nowhere near as much as purchasing the movie.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (10 children)

After the first few times I had apple remove a book from my library, and the only explanation they ever gave me was "sometimes books change, and when books change they are a new book," I just went back to DRM free. If I have to jump through hoops, and still can't keep the content I legally purchased, why would I legally purchase the content?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

When Amazon removed 1984 from Kindle, I thought that's it I'm done. That is too ironic, DRM free for me. Nobody's going to remove my books

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989048

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Man, I spent 15 bucks to watch it at the movie theatre. Why is the rent option more expensive than that? Even with the popcorn and drink I stayed below that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My only argument I can come up with is that other people have friends, so $25 will be less than going to the cinema because they don't have to pay that price for each person watching. It's still ridiculously expensive though.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Instead of giving your money to Amazon to rent this mediocre looking movie that I know nothing about (so this is not a promotion), why not watch it elsewhere (cough cough) and use the same 25 dollars of your hard earned money to support the people who actually worked on the movie and buy a shirt here instead?

https://www.sagaftra.org/official-sag-aftra-strike-swag-available

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Owned" till we remove it from your library

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

25 to lease it. You don't ever really own it

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's more like "How long would you like to rent it for? 24 hours or until we decide to remove it from our servers?"

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of get the feeling that CEOs and corporations see the writing on the wall in terms of the world, economy, and climate change. We're headed for some really extreme times in history and I think these guys have the mindset to just go full balls and try to scam as much wealth out of humanity as possible before the shit hits the fan. The greed I see from companies these days is very blatant and in your face, they don't try to hide it anymore, it's all very "fuck you, pay me" and it's virtually every company you can find these days, they're all doing everything they can to fuck everyone out of one more penny.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

That's $25 for a revocable license to watch it once and $5 more for a revocable license to watch it as many times as you want until the service folds or they decide to memory-hole it in order to get out of paying residuals to the cast and crew. The only way to own something is to steal it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (12 children)
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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

"own it" until we delete it from your account because reasons, but hey, we'll give you a coupon!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The physical Blu-Ray is $25* -- then at least you own it, versus the $30 price here to "buy" but actually lease.

Absolutely ridiculous pricing across the board though.

Edit: $25 for 1080p Blu-Ray, $40 for 4k.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The worst part is that you might be better off with a pirated copy due to DRM on Blu-ray.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

$25 to rent and an extra $5 for the illusion you own it!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correction, $5 more for a lifetime (or until the company decides to remove it) rental.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Pipe dream, but I really wish we would make it illegal to use the terms "Buy" or "Own" for digital goods that can at some point not exist outside of your control.

I give you a dollar and get a DRM-free video file? That is buying.

I give you a dollar and can watch a video file an unlimited number of times in your app? That is not buying, and it should be fraud to claim that it is.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

You don't even own it when you buy it

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

And buying the movie probably won't give you a file, but instead just the right to stream it from their servers. At some point they'll pull the plug on that and you'll loose access.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

You dont own it thenyou just have it available on your account.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I am just baffled by how many people pay idiotic prices with "life just got more expensive, what are you gonna do"

If people happily keep buying all the overpriced shit it's just gonna get worse..

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Renting a DvD / Blueray was like 7$, going to the movies is 10-15$, why TF is this platform so expensive??

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (24 children)

This is the first movie I ever pirated, specifically because of this bullshit pricing. Now I have a VPN and a 500 GB server, which I’m sure will need to be upgraded at some point lol

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I think I'll download the video file for free.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

This is ridiculous, but at least Barbie is getting a physical release. I'm actually very willing to pay for media... if I can access it offline and am not dependent on the good will of some large corporation.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I pirated Barbie and was pretty excited to see it but damn I was disappointed, this movie was seriously overhyped it's really nothing to write home about.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I remember renting VHS and later dvd's.

It usually cost like 4 bucks

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does buy 4K means own digitaly? If yes, it's even worse than I thought..

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[–] GamesRevolution 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, $5 more to "own" the movie

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