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A screenshot, taken way before rexxit, of two comments on reddit, dated "1 year ago".

The first comment is by a deleted user and the comment has been removed. The second comment is a reply to the deleted comment and it says: "That solved it. Thanks!"

Edit: added temporal context.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (19 children)

This is why I'm not deleting my reddit posts and comments. It's not worth making the whole world a tiny bit worse just to punish one company.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 year ago

I respect that, and if Reddit had handled the situation differently, I'd be inclined to agree. But I just do not want them profiting off of my contributions when they've shown such utter contempt for their user base and moderators.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why does one single corporation get sole ownership of your knowledge?

It's not difficult to download what you have contributed to Reddit and to post elsewhere.

Your knowledge belongs to you, you have the right to take it with you when you leave.

Of course you have the right to be lazy and not do that. Or to say, "I am fine with leaving it for Reddit to sell".

But please don't attempt to belittle or minimize the efforts of those who are trying to make a stand.

You are acting like they are doing something wrong ("making the world smaller") when they are simply deciding that their knowledge will not be monetized by a corporation.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

It’s not difficult to download what you have contributed to Reddit and to post elsewhere.

If you believe that what you've learned is of value you have to both consider what you're saying and who can see it. If it's valuable Reddit is far more discoverable than a corner of the internet. It's not a matter necessarily of being "lazy", it's weighing the medium with the message.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's not difficult to download what you have contributed to Reddit and to post somewhere.

It's not easy either. Reddit sometimes has a particular set of posts that solve queries that are not even answered in stack overflow.

Reddit may have did a massive asshole move, but deleting those things might make things difficult only for people who seek the knowledge, not reddit.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is ensuring an information monopoly for an unethical, profit-above-else driven corporation making the world better?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Saving the important posts, posting the question and answer to lemmy and then deleting those posts imo would be the most optimal solution. At least the information is available somewhere and not punishing people looking for answers to their queries.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are Lemmy posts discoverable from normal search engines? If not, then it’s about as useful as the information posted in some obscure Discord chat

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

If Lemmy becomes the go-to place where the knowledge resides, “regular” search engines will adapt to index communities across the instances.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never posted anything worth preserving over there so my choice was clear lel

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

lel

Fuck have we really gone that far back? We'll be back to saying kek before too long at this rate

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Na, they need to be punished and by extension the world can hate Reddit over it.

Also there is that website that lets you see deleted content.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (11 children)

As much as reddit sucks right now, getting rid of decades of tech solutions that are not found anywhere else (not on the fediverse either) is not a solution. back up your reddit stuff somewhere and link to it from reddit, but don't delete it, and don't delete it and tell people 'because lemmy', people will hate lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Instead of "because lemmy", I'd say reddit now charges money for the content, but they did not pay the creator.

[–] IHateRedditAndSpez 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a problem with many companies... for example, Google Maps relies almost completely on its local guides that spend many hours of their free time adding content to google maps. Google makes money with ads, but in my >5 years of being a local guide, I only got a 15% discount for Google store as reward (after being a local guide for 4 years) which I don't even need...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use "Because API changes" instead of "Because lemmy". But I agree; changing it to a link to Lemmy instead is better. Theres a shit-ton of valuable information buried on Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why maintaining your account there and keep deleting your comments/posts will destroy Reddit. Do it, you have the power.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I destroyed thirteen years of comment and post history. Is there any reason I should further maintain my account? I'm asking because if there's something more I can do to screw with their site via my account, I'm all ears.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make sure your posts are deleted, and sell it to an advertiser. Just look up where to sell. A 13 Year old account will make you a good bit of money, and it will in all likelihood be used to spam the site with an ad campaign.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man on one hand that would feel cathartic as fuck, and who would mind a bit of extra money, but I don't think I can bring myself to do that.

I still feel a bit ambivalent about deleting comments in general, like yes it hurts the company, but it also hurts innocent users just looking for answers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

weird to say but once i found a answer for a problem in reddit that wasn't solved/asked even in stack overflow.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, submit a GDPR/CCPA (Reddit is in California, so they are legally required to serve these request to anyone 'protected' by US laws) request. It's expensive and time consuming for them. It should also help you confirm if all of your data has actually been deleted. They have 30 days to comply with the request.

My plan is, one I get my data and confirm everything is deleted, to submit another request if any data was found and will repeat this until all of the data is gone. Only then will I finally submit one more out of spite followed by immediately deleting the account. Honestly not sure how that will affect them processing it but I'd imagine it should then indeed confirm the account itself is 'deleted'.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yes but at the same time -- isn't this worse for us, the users, as a whole losing bits of information like this? the fucks up top do not give a shit about any of this

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It absolutely is worse for users because we can only find the content via channels that spez approves of - removing the content just means you can find the content to be unavailable faster than if you had to scroll through the ads

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This has "searching desperately for a programming question only to find a stackexchange that's like "edit: nevermind I solved it" energy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Nothing grinds my gears more than looking for a tech solution / coding solution to a problem, only to find one other person had the same issue, and then finding that the original post was either deleted like in OPs, or just "nevermind I fixed it".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The absolute best is if the OP was you and you found the solution and now can't remember and are looking again but never documented it.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has been a meme for such a long ass time (even before Reddit) that any deleted post in a support type thread (or on a meme of the subject) was subject to someone replying "Thanks that solved it!"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The most common version of this is when someone posts to Stack Overflow asking about the exact problem in having.

The only reply is from OP: NVM. Fixed it. (4 years ago.)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I saw a few people editing all their Reddit comments/posts with an explanation as to why the info is gone and they also gave a link to where they could find their content reposted on Lemmy. Thought that was pretty clever.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they also gave a link to where they could find their content reposted on Lemmy.

I wanted to do the same but I have heard that reddit is censoring any mention of fediverse or migration to kbin/lemmy and hence I just edited it out (with PowerDeleteSuite fork) to some copy pasta and deleted my comments.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's the intention of users deleting their staffs: making reddit less useful, and therefore, shrink its traffic.

That's the downside of having a website completely runned by the community and volunteer moderators. You mess with them, you lose half of their contents. 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's every chance that's Reddit's fault and the comment with the answer was deleted within the last month as part of a "burn it down on the way out" protest. If you're coming from a Google search, it may be annoying, but if you're posting here about it, you can probably imagine why it was deleted.

I mass edited all of my Reddit comments to say "Deleted" along with a message that I do not want Reddit profiting from my content when they treat their community so poorly. I felt that was more constructive than simply deleting the comments (and risk the admins restoring it if I were to delete my account entirely).

Prior to the shitstorm, I was active in many communities and provided lots of answers to technical topics; those answers are now lost outside of any post archives out there.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just fyi, I took this screenshot a year ago. This was very common for years already.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess I'm about to show my age here but this was a problem on forums before Reddit too.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Of course it's not just deleted, it's removed by moderators.

Typical Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

DenverCoder9

Actually worse, since you now know there is a solution. Even better when you find other links marking it as solved, that point back to the same place.

I didn't delete my comments. Mainly because Reddit had been renewing comments after deletion, so why waste my time over a thing out of my control now. But also just in case, for this. I doubt I posted anything very enlightening, but it's not for me to judge their value. Maybe someone did, and others would.

I just moved on, let things happen however they will.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I work IT, the solution I found yesterday on reddit had been processed deleted - it had not been captured by archive.org

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That says removed. That means someone else removed it, but not the user.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does that make a difference?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm really torn by this. Should all this data be preserved for the betterment of society, or is that what Reddit should get for killing their goose that laid golden eggs..

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I replaced every comment I ever made with a protest message.

Shredding my account may have left some holes like this

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Unlike the Great Library at Alexandria, the information contained in many reddit threads is actually available in other places and can be recreated - often by the same person if necessary and relevant.

I understand people not wanting to have that information deleted, but I think the analogy is a bit heavy. For many, it's a balancing act where the fundamental disagreement with reddit's cultural evolution outweighs the desire to participate in the knowledge repository.

I think many people were comfortable with their ideas belonging to the communities that spawned on reddit, and they viewed reddit's ownership as a necessary technicality for the platform to exist. Once reddit clarified that they intended to act on that ownership, many people no longer wanted to participate.

I think they have that right.

More importantly, who owns our thoughts in this space?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Lol. Like looking for obscure troubleshooting and finding what looks to be the answer on an ancient abandoned forum... Oh wait... Is that reddit now too?

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