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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It'll be interesting to see how a linear shooter from back then would translate to today's time. Would it be more like Last of Us where each encounter is thrilling and tense, or would it be like Max Payne 3/Uncharted 4 where you move from one level to another with a moving plot line?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I am curious how they'd translate it myself, I recall the first game vividly as new and thinking it was awesome. Though I assume the next game wouldn't be marketed for me either. An updated drug scene would be interesting, haven't had a good one since one of the Batman games. I probably missed some drug sequences but Max Payne's was pretty effed up at the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to imagine "tense" action with how goofy the enemies act, so I guess the second option sounds better? I've never played Max Payne 3 or Uncharted 4, so I don't really know exactly what you mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Me too. Max Payne 3 is like the previous entries, just a bit more focus on close range corridor shooting with cover mechanics. Similar to previous entries but with a very stylized story telling.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

It’d be really cool if developers would stop remaking old shit and instead, start creating new shit. But I get it- remaking old stuff is cheap and people eat it up. I mean, look at Hollywood. Same thing. And gaming is all about cash cows now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once you turn what you love doing into a business, there's no going back. There are still people deeply passionate about making games, but that's just not the reality of these massive studios. They're in for the money, and the leadership aren't even... gamers themselves, somehow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Start playing more indie games with passion behind them and less AAA money grabbing half polished turds they keep pumping out. It's the only way out of this mess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That's basically all I do at this point, and it's been really nice. A lot of genuinely fantastic experiences. Always labor of love, a game they'd love to play themselves

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I personally don't mind remakes as long as they're well done. The thing is one the greater horror films of all time, it also happens to be a remake. The Departed is a great cops and robbers movie, it's also a remake. Oceans eleven, Casino Royale, magnificent seven are all remakes. But people don't remember the good example of remakes, only the bad ones.

And also in gaming. System Shock remake is great. Residential evil remake, great. Demons souls, great. There's nothing wrong with getting good remakes, there are plenty of games that absolutely could have a remake. Like I would 100% want a New Vegas remake, one that does Vegas (freeside and strip) and Legion justice. After all the remake doesn't need to be 1 to 1 with the original

When it comes to Max Payne I'm not sure how they could make it better than the original, but I'm not going to instantly write it off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They literally have a brand new game coming out in a few weeks. You can do both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I feel like there is no shortage of new things, especially from indie developers

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

nobody said you have to buy it.

remedy’s last three games were all brand new IP

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said I can’t have an opinion on it without buying it either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you’re complaining about Remedy remaking one of their older and most famous games when their last three releases have all been new IP, so i feel your criticism is misplaced. this isn’t coming at the expense of anything “new”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m also not complaining. I’m just using this one article to point out how the INDUSTRY as a whole has become very remake-happy.

Do you really think this bothers me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

you literally asked for them not to do this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You can ask for something without complaining. You should probably try and learn that these aren’t the same thing.

Like, requesting that a restaurant doesn’t over-salt my steak isn’t complaining that their steaks are too salty. It’s just suggesting something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I loved Max's look on 1 and 2. They made him a "generic game protagonist" in 3. Half of the fun was watching him grimace the whole game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Blame Rockstar for 3.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if they'll bring James McCaffrey back since he and Remedy have been working together for almost every game Remedy's made (the only one I can think of that he wasn't in is Quantum Break). McCaffrey's voice is so iconic as Max imo, it's hard for me to imagine anyone else doing it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

No way they'd ever replace him, especially after the way the way the community reacted when Rockstar tried doing it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Yaaay! Max Payne! Hopefully they remaster all the janky community made Matrix mods too! 🤪

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don’t know how to feel about this one.

I would prefer Remedy expand their own IP and encourage people into thinking about Alex Casey instead.

They don’t own Max Payne, Rockstar does. They should buy it back instead of reworking this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Loved playing Max Payne so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Hopefully a lot of the bad ass mods that really made the first couple of games even cooler get ported for the remakes. And not just the tons of Matrix mods because the game came out around the same time the movie was new and extremely popular.