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This would have helped me years ago when I was kind of confused on Mastodon. Very nice intro to new users.
Might I suggest a "single column" version as well, for the folks on mobile devices? 😁
Where does kbin fit with lemmy? Is it a competitor? I see a lot of posts pointing to lemmy communities. Can people create new kbin communities like lemmy?
Kbin reminds me of slashdot, maybe it’s the UI
Thanks for asking this!
I set up accounts on both in the hysteria of leaving reddit.
I think I get how the various lemmys work/interact, I just don't know how Kbin fits into the picture.
I am just using my laptop, not on mobile devices yet.
Third day here, so still learning and giving lots of time and patience for the dust to settle
This is so well done!
a simple and nice introduction to Lemmy, Mastodon and Fediverse really helped my stupid ass. thank u
I find that comparing it to email makes it click the fastest. Everyone knows that you can email someone no matter which email provider they use.
Yeah, that would be a helpful addition if there were space for it. Also a description of what the funky address parts do like in [email protected]
Thank you, this is very well made and covers all the basic questions!
I'd also like to add that you can get very cool usernames by joining smaller instances, since usernames don't have to be unique between instances ;)
Yeah, that's true.
Says the guy with pride who snagged python on the biggest obviously programming instance :-) nice one!
Indeed! I'm not even a python programmer (I do Delphi but was recently moved into PERN) I just like the snake and have been going by variations of python for years lol
Great graphic. The only thing that is unmentioned and potentially confusing is that the same community names can exist on multiple instances, just like email addresses can do.
I don’t know how to easily boil that down to a simple graphic.
"go to lemmyverse.nst and find the biggest"
I like how the portmanteau visual for fediverse is a car crash lmao
Awesome @[email protected], thanks for this
not actually mine , credit is on the bottom left, but I cant even re-load the image, let alone lemmy.world, it's all so slow. I was actually trying to find the original to link to someone else and couldnt load lemmy.world
Why can I sometimes not subscribe to a community or post a comment? It asks me to login to an account for the instance?
Because currently lemmy doesn't substitute links to rewrite them from your own community.
Eg. [email protected] would refer to https://lemmy.one/c/[email protected] From your instance. If people don't link correctly though it'll direct to https://sh.itjust.works/c/cats which you wouldn't be able to join
Essentially as long as your instance isn't actively defederated from a given instance, you can typically join your instances "mirror" of that community.
Say you wanted to join cats on sh.itjust.works... you can open your instances search and paste [email protected] into your search
Two likely possibilities with further detail about each below:
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The link you clicked took you to the community on the host instance rather than the copy on your local instance, or
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The community is on an instance that’s defederated with your home instance.
When you view and interact with communities and content hosted on another server, you’re technically interacting with a copy of that community/content that’s hosted on your home server and kept in sync with the main copy. So if I want to subscribe to /c/technology hosted on lemmy.world even though my home instance is sh.itjust.works, I need to visit the copy on shitjustworks at sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected]
If I went to lemmy.world/c/technology, I couldn’t interact because I don’t have an account on the lemmy.world site.
As I said above, communities and content are copied between Lemmy instances and kept in sync across the copies. But sometimes an instance will ‘defederate’ with another, ie cutting the direct connection between them that lets them copy and sync content. In that case, there’s no local copy for me to subscribe to or interact with.
The incorrect link is far more likely to be the issue than defederation, so whenever you run into that issue check the link and make sure it’s the copy on your instance.
Possible that said instance has defederated from your instance.
Thank you! This clears up so many questions I had
This is amazing, sending this to my less tech savvy friends!
This is great but beehaw defederated from Lemmy, Kbin, etc so we can see but can’t interact with them.
Beehaw defederated from a couple specific Lemmy servers, not Lemmy overall.
Beehaw's instance page lists instances they have blocked.
To access/join communities on other instances, would I need to create an account on that instance? In the graphic it says I can only search for communities on that instance.
You can access and subscribe to communities in other instances as long as they are still federated (connected) with the instance your account is in.
Thank you! Still learning the ropes!
If you want to subscribe to a community on another instance, copy the URL of the community and paste it into the search of your own instance.
It might take several seconds while it searches but it should eventually show up, then you can click/tap on it and then click the subscribe button in the sidebar.
You don't have to make a new account for that instance, and communities on other instances should show up on search :)
Basic
Thank you this was very helpful
This is an excellent illustration!
Newb to the fediverse here. This graphic is really helpful. One, probably dumb, question: where does something like kbin.social fall into this? Is it part of the fediverse or a different *verse?
kbin is also a part of the fediverse. It’s similar enough to Lemmy that (as far as I can tell) they seem to be virtually interchangeable.
Kbin is sorta like an alternate Lemmy client.
A bad comparison would be like Hotmail vs gmail. Both are email, but slightly different interfaces.
So can Lemmy users see Mastodon stuff as well? I've tried to look up stuff from Lemmy on my Mastodon instance and it doesn't work, but on my Mastodon server I can see my Lemmy account, but nothing on it.
I think you'll only be able to see your posts, and not your comments. So if you have no posts, you'll have nothing to show mastodon users.
One thing that I think is neat, and others think is a problem, is that you can @ tag any mastodon user with Lemmy and vice versa, and they'll get a ping and be able to respond to it and join the conversation.
Thank you! Still learning the ropes!
Beautiful saving to help others in the future.
Thank you so much for sharing this! As a newcomer, this help me understand Lemmy much better :)
this was super helpful. Thank you for making this
Should have mentioned a bit about defederation in that image as well
Awesome stuff!! Hero’s work!!
Thanks for making this, this is very helpful to explain to everyone.