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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Picture needs to be updated: it shows too many connections with Beehaw.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This would have helped me years ago when I was kind of confused on Mastodon. Very nice intro to new users.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Might I suggest a "single column" version as well, for the folks on mobile devices? 😁

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where does kbin fit with lemmy? Is it a competitor? I see a lot of posts pointing to lemmy communities. Can people create new kbin communities like lemmy?

Kbin reminds me of slashdot, maybe it’s the UI

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for asking this!

I set up accounts on both in the hysteria of leaving reddit.

I think I get how the various lemmys work/interact, I just don't know how Kbin fits into the picture.

I am just using my laptop, not on mobile devices yet.

Third day here, so still learning and giving lots of time and patience for the dust to settle

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is so well done!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

a simple and nice introduction to Lemmy, Mastodon and Fediverse really helped my stupid ass. thank u

[–] sorrus 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find that comparing it to email makes it click the fastest. Everyone knows that you can email someone no matter which email provider they use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that would be a helpful addition if there were space for it. Also a description of what the funky address parts do like in [email protected]

[–] python 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you, this is very well made and covers all the basic questions!

I'd also like to add that you can get very cool usernames by joining smaller instances, since usernames don't have to be unique between instances ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Says the guy with pride who snagged python on the biggest obviously programming instance :-) nice one!

[–] python 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed! I'm not even a python programmer (I do Delphi but was recently moved into PERN) I just like the snake and have been going by variations of python for years lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great graphic. The only thing that is unmentioned and potentially confusing is that the same community names can exist on multiple instances, just like email addresses can do.

I don’t know how to easily boil that down to a simple graphic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"go to lemmyverse.nst and find the biggest"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like how the portmanteau visual for fediverse is a car crash lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

not actually mine , credit is on the bottom left, but I cant even re-load the image, let alone lemmy.world, it's all so slow. I was actually trying to find the original to link to someone else and couldnt load lemmy.world

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why can I sometimes not subscribe to a community or post a comment? It asks me to login to an account for the instance?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because currently lemmy doesn't substitute links to rewrite them from your own community.

Eg. [email protected] would refer to https://lemmy.one/c/[email protected] From your instance. If people don't link correctly though it'll direct to https://sh.itjust.works/c/cats which you wouldn't be able to join

Essentially as long as your instance isn't actively defederated from a given instance, you can typically join your instances "mirror" of that community.

Say you wanted to join cats on sh.itjust.works... you can open your instances search and paste [email protected] into your search

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Two likely possibilities with further detail about each below:

  1. The link you clicked took you to the community on the host instance rather than the copy on your local instance, or

  2. The community is on an instance that’s defederated with your home instance.

When you view and interact with communities and content hosted on another server, you’re technically interacting with a copy of that community/content that’s hosted on your home server and kept in sync with the main copy. So if I want to subscribe to /c/technology hosted on lemmy.world even though my home instance is sh.itjust.works, I need to visit the copy on shitjustworks at sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected]

If I went to lemmy.world/c/technology, I couldn’t interact because I don’t have an account on the lemmy.world site.

As I said above, communities and content are copied between Lemmy instances and kept in sync across the copies. But sometimes an instance will ‘defederate’ with another, ie cutting the direct connection between them that lets them copy and sync content. In that case, there’s no local copy for me to subscribe to or interact with.

The incorrect link is far more likely to be the issue than defederation, so whenever you run into that issue check the link and make sure it’s the copy on your instance.

[–] dukk 1 points 1 year ago

Possible that said instance has defederated from your instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you! This clears up so many questions I had

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is amazing, sending this to my less tech savvy friends!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is great but beehaw defederated from Lemmy, Kbin, etc so we can see but can’t interact with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw defederated from a couple specific Lemmy servers, not Lemmy overall.

Beehaw's instance page lists instances they have blocked.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To access/join communities on other instances, would I need to create an account on that instance? In the graphic it says I can only search for communities on that instance.

[–] Future203 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can access and subscribe to communities in other instances as long as they are still federated (connected) with the instance your account is in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you! Still learning the ropes!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If you want to subscribe to a community on another instance, copy the URL of the community and paste it into the search of your own instance.

It might take several seconds while it searches but it should eventually show up, then you can click/tap on it and then click the subscribe button in the sidebar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You don't have to make a new account for that instance, and communities on other instances should show up on search :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you this was very helpful

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is an excellent illustration!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Newb to the fediverse here. This graphic is really helpful. One, probably dumb, question: where does something like kbin.social fall into this? Is it part of the fediverse or a different *verse?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

kbin is also a part of the fediverse. It’s similar enough to Lemmy that (as far as I can tell) they seem to be virtually interchangeable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Kbin is sorta like an alternate Lemmy client.

A bad comparison would be like Hotmail vs gmail. Both are email, but slightly different interfaces.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So can Lemmy users see Mastodon stuff as well? I've tried to look up stuff from Lemmy on my Mastodon instance and it doesn't work, but on my Mastodon server I can see my Lemmy account, but nothing on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you'll only be able to see your posts, and not your comments. So if you have no posts, you'll have nothing to show mastodon users.

One thing that I think is neat, and others think is a problem, is that you can @ tag any mastodon user with Lemmy and vice versa, and they'll get a ping and be able to respond to it and join the conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you! Still learning the ropes!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Beautiful saving to help others in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much for sharing this! As a newcomer, this help me understand Lemmy much better :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

this was super helpful. Thank you for making this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Should have mentioned a bit about defederation in that image as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome stuff!! Hero’s work!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for making this, this is very helpful to explain to everyone.

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