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Whelp, here we go again

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mmmm, gotta love that enshittification strategy every big tech company is working on right now.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Another executive-driven decision by people who clearly don't use their own product (kinda impressive really when it's YT).

I can't help wonder if they saw an uptick in adblocking as a result of their absurd increases in ad-time recently and somehow thought this was a reasonable solution.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

8-10 unskippable ads before a video? Holy shit. That's ludicrous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It really is hard to fathom how that got through any internal discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's with every big tech company trying to destroy their userbase this year?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Interest rates hikes stopped the free money, so companies need profit.

I’d argue they don’t need $500 million when they already make $400 million, but I’m just a lowly peasant.

tl;dr: capitalism

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they think they have us sufficiently cornered on centralized sites, they may be right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Especially with video. Reddit was easy-ish to leave -- I haven't left entirely -- since it's just a link aggregator and glorified forums. That's nothing new to the Internet. And Twitter was easy to replace with Mastodon.

But hosting video? That's a tough one to replicate. I know there are some other platforms out there, but I can't imagine any could really take on YouTube, due to space and bandwidth considerations.

So yeah, I think YouTube has us all by the balls. And they know it.

[–] Buttons 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

And what are the consequences of "strikes"? Will you delete my Google account, including my email, and also screw up my Android phone and my kids Chromebook?

It's scary to realize that Google has me by the balls here. They can screw me in so many ways, and screw my family members as well. I'd rather have my bank credentials stolen than my email credentials, at least I can get real customer service from the bank, I can even go to a physical location and speak face-to-face with someone who can help me. Google wont give me customer support, and my email account is the closest thing to an identity I have for most businesses I interact with.

It takes a lot of work to avoid Google. Yes, there are alternatives, but in D&D terms, avoiding Google is like a -2 to all stats for your entire life, and not something we can expect the general population to do.

All this shows the need for anti-trust enforcement. The same company is controlling too much. Bust 'em up!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Moral of the story: create separate account for YouTube that has no high value services or data on it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I've seen enough horror stories to know that's not going to help. They can, and do, associate multiple accounts to same users. Be it by cookies, IP addresses, or dark magic, the end result is the same - they can upend your entire digital life if they want to. r/degoogle better hurry up and migrate to Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Spend a weekend degoogling your stuff. There are alternatives for everything now. No regrets

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Article suggests you simply get blocked from watching additional videos. But there's no info on how that works- is it account based? IP based? Can I wipe my YouTube cookies to bypass a block?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I'd rather pay for Nebula than YouTube premium. Most of the creators I actively follow are on there anyways, and the few that aren't (usually the ones with very long videos) I should probably just watch with ads anyways to support them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a similar thought. How fair is nebula to their creators? I heard it was somehow creator owned, but other than that I have no idea how it works.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Recently found this gem: https://adnauseam.io/

It's an ad blocker that only hides ads and clicks them for you in the background, which means you waste advertiser's money, support creators, can't get flagged for ad blocking as easily, and they can't build a proper profile against your ad activity since it's all noise. Haven't installed it yet, but this might be the push I needed.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone in the Fediverse (I don't know where and who) posted that you have to add the following filters into U-Block Origin. When done you shouldn't see any anti-adblock-warnings :

youtube.com##+js(set,yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel,false)

youtube.com##+js(set,Object.prototype.adBlocksFound,O)

youtube.com##+js(set,ytplayer.config.aras.raw_player_response.adPlacements,[])

youtube.com##+js(set,Object.prototype.hasAllowedlnstreamAd,true)

I might add that I haven't experienced any anti-adblock-warnings yet, but I added these filters in advance. I might be worth a shot!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did all these tech companies just get together and decide to fuck us over around the same time? Seriously, what is going on with all these companies rolling out hugely unpopular new rules/changes all on one another's heels?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The end of 0% interest means “business” no longer have access to free money. So now they want benefits, and growth but without the spending.

Also we skipped a tech bubble crash around 2008, so these corpos deaths are more than overdue.

The cicle as Doctorow says in his enshification tesis is:

1.- be good to your users, spending tons of that VC and 0% interest loan free money.

2.- be shit to your users, be good to your clients (add buyers, business that use your platform to do business)

3.- be shit to everyone. Squeeze the platform and get every last dime of value as profit.

Once you are in 3 there is no coming back. But these corporations have pulling the ladder behind them using an extra decade of dominant position to try to stop the cicle.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Time to use an adblock blocker blocker extension.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Ad blocker detection is not new, and other publishers regularly ask viewers to disable ad blockers

"everyone else is treating their customers like garbage, so they don'y hold it against us".

Yes, we can.

I didn't block when you had 5 second ads. I didn't block when you had 15 second ads. I started blocking when you'd play 2+ unskippable 15 second ads back-to-back. I didn't mind sitting through an ad when I appreciate the service you offered. Now, you're just being greedy, and I will go to great lengths to damage your bottom line as notably as I can.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If they want me to stop blocking ads, they will need to get rid of ads like this. I get ads like this all the time and it’s completely inappropriate.

IMG-7171.png

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Twitch couldn't beat my adblocking, it just taught me how to find and use custom scripts. Shoot your shot YT, I haven't installed a script for your website yet but now Im gonna have too. Congrats the number of ads im gonna see from you is about to go down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Cat and mouse game. May get me to watch a couple, but I'll someone will have a way around it within a week.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So if you are on android: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.polymorphicshade.newpipe (Newpipe with sponsorblock baked in)

If you are on PC: https://freetubeapp.io/ (Piped with sponsorblock baked in)

You're welcome.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

YouTube without an adblocker is such a mess. I wish alternatives like https://odysee.com had more of the content I watch and less Nazi bullshit though. YouTube really needs some strong competition since they have an effective monopoly on long-form videos on the internet. :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I made an account there once and immediately got racist and homophobic results, so I quit using it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

lmao fuck right off Google. there are a million open source alternatives out there that still let me watch videos, nor do I (nor will I) have an account with you clowns.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Hot take: this sucks, but YouTube premium is legit. I wish more platforms offered a paid, ad-free way to interact. I don't feel like figuring out a way around ads but I'm not about to start watching them. So I pay a few bucks a month.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Screw YouTube and Google. They aren’t getting a dime from me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be more willing to pay if it wasn't $10/mo (annual cost) for a bunch of stuff I don't care about. If they had a cheaper option that was just ad-free (maybe $5/mo?), I'd be down for that.

I also like what Kagi does with their duo plan for 2 users. Some kind of duo plan for YT premium would be nice as well, since I (and many others, I'm sure) don't have a family of 6 people.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'll stop blocked ads when I stop using their service. Not a minute sooner.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I´m sure the will be no false strikes at all. And even if, I´m sure they have a quick and easy appeal process in place, just like they have with copyright.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What happens if you use SmartTubeNext on a TV? I'm assuming the interface wouldn't support the 3 strike YouTube popup so I guess you'd just get blocked without knowing why?

I'm guessing ReVanced will support the popup so you'd know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Anyone hoping there will be a mass exodus from YouTube to other--maybe fediverse YouTube alternatives, reminiscent of the Reddit exodus?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Video hosting is way too expensive and complex to be decentralised.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t want all the other crap that YT is offering with premium. $12/month is too much.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So there are YouTube front ends for browser experience, but has anyone tried freetube from this guide?

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/frontends/

I've really liked the newpipe x Sponsorblock experience on my Android phone with having a subscription list, saves, playlists all locally with no YouTube account and ability to export and import the data of Playlists etc.

Freetube sounds like newpipe for desktop and has sponsorblock as an option too. Anyone use it or used it and have an thoughts on it?

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[–] snaggen 5 points 1 year ago

That is pretty much the same policy I have for forcing adds on me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Big web corps are a wild ride lately

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Looks like I'm installing Invidious tonight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Damn, what am I going to do with my life when I stop wasting time on youtube?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, youtube content (for most part) is not worth the money or watching the ads for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Greedy fuckers. They're not making enough money already? And when you pay them you get shit service anyways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Copying my comment over from fmhy instance -

If you don't mind paying ~2$ a month, you can get Family Premium using a VPN (I used India)

Current working method from HUKD: (Private/Incognito browser is best)

Create a new Google Account. Enter card details. Enter a fake billing address, any random address generator will do, as long as it’s from the correct region. Then select Try it Free. Navigate to YouTube, press YouTube Premium, and double-check that everything is in the right currency. Enter the same credit card and address information you used for creating the new Google Account. Click Buy 👍

You can then add your main Google account as a family member.👍

HUKD link

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They will never win. They will only lose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Lol. Guess it's time to add the rest of my subbed channels to YT-DL and ditch their shitty ad-filled site entirely.

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