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Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) is getting some heat after video footage showed her in close contact with a male companion at a Beetlejuice musical from which she was booted after allegedly vaping in front of a pregnant woman. That companion is reportedly the owner of a pro-LGBT bar that has hosted a dra...

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I mean, I'd argue this should be celebrated, not used as a burn. I get the angle on hypocrisy here, but framing LGBT support as a mistake or flaw, as unintentional as it may be, doesn't really sit right, imo.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago

I really do wish the headline had pointed out the hypocrisy on her part and not with phrasing that reads as being pro-LGBT is bad.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t call it “support” with out learning more.

He owns a bar. He’s a businessman. Who makes profit of vice. And who, apparently, gets off groping tits at a family theater

Same deal with target- neither give a flying fig about lgbtq issues…. They just want to make money. Target by selling merch, this guy by selling a burlesque show.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LGBT support is framed in the context of showing how much of a giant lying cunt Boebert is. I didn't at all take any inference to it being framed as a mistake or flaw in a negative context from this article or the title. People seem to get rabidly defensive on every position, everywhere, all of the time now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is my position, too. I’m pretty sensitive to social homophobia and transphobia, and this headline, to me, is calling out Bobo and not her boyfriend (although I would question his taste). Now admittedly, you’d have to know who Bobo is in order to get that. If it was about AIC’s boyfriend owning a gay bar, that’d literally be a different story. However, I don’t think you can squeeze too much context into a headline without using a queerty or the root style headline like “Fame-hungry homophobe Boebert caught publicly masturbating gay bar owner in children’s musical!”

Honestly, I’m never sure how much of their crap is performative and how much is serious, but honestly even the serious stuff is actually performative.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of conservatives make money off of progressives, just by targeting than doesn't mean you are one

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Never said they were.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I didn't go past the paywall, but I'm not seeing anything against LGBTQ+ people in the headline. I read it like when some male "family values" politician is caught shaking up with another man - it really is the hypocrisy that's the issue.

Like many of her ilk, Bobert doesn't really give a shit about the things she screams about; it's political theater designed whip up the base, and this situation makes that obvious to anyone paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Double-edged sword: The title is belittling to LGBT readers, but also Boobert's simple-minded base will use this as reason to drop support for her.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's almost like the culture war is completely manufactured and the people perpetuating it don't actually give a shit because they're just playing the grift for their own benefit.

Remember kids, the only solidarity is class solidarity and rich people understand that better than you.

EDIT: Autocorrect butchered my spelling.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100% this. Things won't change until we drag out the guillotines.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I'm just picturing like an Irish Drag King called Gil O'Tien heading up the executions of billionaires.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure she was giving him a handy in a theater to, ya know, punish him for enabling what she clearly thinks is a pedo grooming operation. She couldn't be lying about her moral outrage surrounding drag queens at all, could she?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not looking hard enough. She's secretly in on the pedo cabal!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Like, literally.

As a victim turned enabler, going by her relationship with her husband.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At first, the story was just funny and pathetic, but it just got better.

Also, her “companion” should have higher standards.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, probably the only thing she's actually good for is groping in a theater. I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Absolutely guarantee you she is fun in bed. She's completely fucking bonkers and red flags make for great sex.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

Oh look, a Republican hypocrite....

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It did occur to me that maybe he's taking one for the team.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The public face a politician puts forth is often very different than the actual person, and it's been that way since forever.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're pretty much just political evangelicals

Pretend to be someone to take your money, get power, and laugh as they get to lie to you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

100% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

That excuse only goes so far, though. Some aspects of her public image may just be an act, but she’s doing real harm.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Okay but there's a bit of a gap between "He's extra polite to the waitstaff when he thinks there are cameras watching" and "she publicly decries drag queens as child sex criminals but commits sex crimes in front of children with someone who owns a drag bar". I agree that it's a difference of degree rather than kind but differences of degree matter.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And their hipocrisy keeps coming...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the whole point.

Say whatever will get the conservative people angry.

For decades stirring up fear and hatred for gay and lesbian people was a sure vote winner for the right wing.

Once gay marriage and relationships became acceptable (relatively, I am not dismissing the hardships LGB people still face) in much of the west, they needed a new group to focus that hate to rile up their supporters and suddenly all the hateful shit was shifted to trans people.

Most that spout this hatred to get elected, do not believe it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And the most upsetting part of all this is that I cannot for the life of me decide who is more dangerous, but somehow I find the ones that the true believers less evil than these pieces of shit that are just doing it for power.

Don’t get me wrong, fuck the true believers too, but I can at least wrap my mind around why they suck. If you truly believe in your bones that abortion is baby murder I fully understand why you would want to stop it, it’s obviously not and believing so is fundamentally stupid just to be clear.

The Bobert’s of the world enable those people’s worst impulses because they don’t give a shit about the consequences so long as they benefit. And that’s just so much worse to me somehow, it’s the Henry Kissinger of it all

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

The true believers are misguided fools. That doesn't make them any less contemptible, but the ones who do it for craven political reasons but don't actually believe it are far worse.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Hypocrisy is a tool for the GQP.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Is no one else going to say it? Okay, fine I'll say it.

He kept coming from that handy during the musical too.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So recently Bobo said she was done with MAGA, and now the BF owns a pro-LGTBQ bar... Could it be that he is bringing some (and I mean a little bit) of sanity to trailer park barbie? Maybe this is a good thing and we get a less radical -- but still idiotic Bobo

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think you're being far too generous. She's only done with MAGA because it's getting less popular and her seat is in danger. She has to appeal to a broader group of people to get elected. She never believed the crap she said (look at her personal life before going for office), she was just using it. He didn't make her see any light - she remains as self-serving as ever, and she never gave a crap about LGBTQ+ issues in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. She just wanted to get a piece of ass in public and couldn't find a repressed evangelical to do public stuff. She's still batshit insane and honestly that dude needs to learn not to stick his dick in crazy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea but…. Crazy is the best sex.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You aren't wrong but the less people know about this the better off humanity as a whole will be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, like most women, she thinks conservative men are undatable

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Free hand jobs for everyone!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now this, this might do damage: supporting the people they’re supposed to be against

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to her. Most Republicans don't give a single shit about any amount of hypocrisy from their own. The guy that owns the bar is going to be in some shit though. His LGBTQ+ and ally customer base cares.

I won't be going to his bar, but it's not like I ever go all the way to fucking Aspen anyway. There are lots better places that are lots less full of ultra-rich douches.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Okay, are they putting me on here?

First, the headline:

Lauren Boebert's Beetlejuice scandal could hand Democrats control of the House: report

Matthew Hand, a Denver-based criminal attorney, says that the law 'is vague and overreaching.'"

Ba dum TISH.

Hand? The guy they find for the quote has the name HAND? And he gives a quote about "overreaching"? Oh. My.

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