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A 2025 Tesla Model 3 in Full-Self Driving mode drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media.

I just don't see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"It crashed!"

"Yes but it did it all by itself!"

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anything outside of a freshly painted and paved LA roads at high noon while it's sunny isn't ready for self drivings it seems

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Actual self-driving vehicles, sure. Just not whatever the fuck Tesla is doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure about even the more advanced self-driving cars. Shit gets fucked with snow and all kinds of other stuff.

Flummoxes many human drivers too tbh.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or silly tunnels you can't get out of.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago

Tunnels are extra dangerous. Not because of the likelihood of an accident, but because of the situation if an accident happens. It blocks the tunnels easily, fills it with smoke, and kills hundreds.

Except newly built tunnels in rich countries.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Full Self-Destruct

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I am never getting into a self driving car. I don't understand why we are investing money into this technology when people can already drive cars on their own, and we should be moving towards robust public transportation systems anyway. A waste of time and resources to... what exactly? Stare at your phone for a few extra minutes a day? Work from home and every city having robust electric transit systems is what the future is supposed to be.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Back when I still believed, I was excited because I wanted get in my car and take a 90-minute nap until I arrived at work.

With public transportation, you can only be half-asleep or you'll miss your stop.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago

I used to dream of watching a movie then falling asleep in bed while my car drove the 8 hours to my folks' house.

But I'd want that beast to be bristling with sensors of every kind. None of this "cameras only" idiocy.

Someday. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I have a 45 minute high speed train commute to a busy end-of-line station. I can sleep, read, work, or just stare out the window and think.

Same commute is probably twice as long by car during rush hour.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I wish I lived in a place that took rail infrastructure seriously. But all our trains appear to be built out of sheet iron and about four nails, oll movement is accompanied with eeeeeeeeeccccchhhhhhhheeeeeekkkkkkkscccreeeeeeeekkkkeeeeek

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

self driving is the future, but im glad im not a beta tester.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're probably right about the future, but like damn, I wish they would slow their roll and use LiDAR

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Elon Musk decided they absolutely would not use lidar, years ago when lidar was expensive enough that a decision like that made economic sense to at least try making work. Nowadays lidar is a lot cheaper but for whatever reason Musk has drawn a line in the sand and refuses to back down on it.

Unlike many people online these days I don't believe that Musk is some kind of sheer-luck bought-his-way-into-success grifter, he has been genuinely involved in many of the decisions that made his companies grow. But this is one of the downsides of that (Cybertruck is another). He's forced through ideas that turned out to be amazing, but he's also forced through ideas that sucked. He seems to be increasingly having trouble distinguishing them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 22 hours ago

He really hasn't. He purchased companies that were already sitting on profitable ideas. He is not an engineer. He is not a scientist. He has no training in any design discipline. He takes credit for the ideas of people he pays. He takes credit for the previous achievements of companies he's purchased.

What is it going to fucking take for people to finally actually see the grifter for what he is? He's never had a single good fucking r&d idea in his life 🙃 he has wasted billions of dollars researching and developing absolutely useless ideas that have benefited literally no one and have not made him any money. It is absolutely incredible how powerful his mythos is, that people still believe him to be or have been some kind of engineer or something. He's a fucking racist nepo baby. He's never done a single useful thing in his life. He wasn't the sole individual involved in creating PayPal (and was entirely unrelated in turning it into the successful business it became), he didnt found tesla nor is he responsible for any of the technological developments it made (except for forcing his shitty charger design that notoriously breaks down and charges at half the speed that competitors do), he did not found SpaceX and by all metrics involved has been loathed by everyone at the company for the past decade for continuously committing workers rights violations and fostering a racist sexist and ableist work environment. The man has done nothing but waste people's time stoking his ego and sexually abusing a slew of employees for the past 2 and a half decades.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago

He's forced through ideas that turned out to be amazing, but he's also forced through ideas that sucked.

He's utterly incapable of admitting that one of his ideas is garbage.

There is a reason he fawns all over Trump and that's because both of them are of a type. Both of them have egos large enough to have their own gravitational fields but lack any real talent. Look his family up, they're all like that.

[–] tyler 8 points 23 hours ago

They removed their lidar sensors after the prices had already come down.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ditto! They were about 1 foot from hitting the tree head on rather than glancing off, could have easily been fatal. Weirdly small axises of random chance that the world spins on

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I still don't understand what made it happen. I kept watching shadows and expecting it to happen earlier.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

They seriously need to pull FSD if it were just a matter of people risking their own lives I wouldn't mind but they're risking everyone else's by driving this glitch machine around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

There's some difference in the fences on the left side at the exact time the car passed by on the other lane. My guess is that the timing of the other car made the software interpret those changes in the input as something moving instead of simply something being different.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It makes no damn sense! There were worse shadows. it was totally unpredictable

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I thought it might be following the tire tracks but no. It just decided to veer completely off.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fear the day I’m on the receiving end of a “glitch.” It’s ridiculous that anyone can think these are safe after how many of these videos I’ve seen.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

As a motorcyclist... Yeah.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

There’s an obvious reason. It’s a fucking Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

It was in stunt mode

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

you do get this wrong, its a flying car

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

But does it do it less often than humans?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

A good point, but I'm not sure that's where the bar is. How does it compare to other self-driving systems that have lidar, for instance?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna answer your question with a question, as I don't have your answer. When a human wrecks up it's their fault. Who's fault is it when something like this happens? Should ut still be the person in the driver's seat?

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[–] Matty_r 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I have done it zero times, and I am definitely a Human man.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Can confirm, also a human and never caused a car crash

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