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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

By not giving them any rights even though complex expression through language implies a high level of intelligence and sapience. The dog and cat that you can talk to are still considered your property that you can just take to the vet and put down. Animal shelters can now just tell the animals their kill dates so they don't get too hopeful. Slaughterhouses will be filled with screams you understand instead of just screams. Cosmetic companies and labs can now ask their test subjects for the level of pain while smearing makeup in their eyes. Sea World, zoos, circuses, etc would make peak profits now that they can address their slaves as if they were human slaves.

I mean, all humans can communicate with each other and we still don't give rights to some of them. Anyone who thinks we'll be nice to animals just because they can talk is either a child or otherwise doesn't know how humans operate.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

There are some things people should not know, and I agree that the pain threshold and communication of forced euthanization and slavery of animals will be a game changer. Thanks for this analysis

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Considering that negotiating with livestock would be a hassle, probably just pretend we can't understand them

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...while still listening to everything they say in order to control them more efficiently.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good premise for a scifi story.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

sounds like a good premise for a tech company.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not like we can't understand the screams and cries from livestock right now already...

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but the living ones are not asking "hooman, what happened to Stacy?"

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cows are known to cry and wail when their calves are taken and killed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TIL, I thought we usually kill the older animals first.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Dairy cows are impregnated around 7 times so they can be milked. Most of their calves are used for veal.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the vast majority of calves do not become veal

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Telling them that man is the image of god and they are inferior beings created for man to subjugate.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I think I've seen this anime

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

By telling them lies just to complete some experiments

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

We would make it too complicated. Almost all animals are in survival mode. Some that have free time could understand limited concepts. It would be easier to setup commerce with some corvids for example but not to keep them out of the corn fields. Dogs would have a lot more anxiety and cats wouldn't change much.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Ask for consent.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Spend hours trying educated them democracy and war and watch them break into faction to murder each other

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well you shouldn't waste the meat left on the battlefield right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This'd be great since it's a whole lot less morally compromising when it wasn't even us bumping them off.