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It’s almost like the good ol’ days of install fests and the like! ‘End of 10’ is an organization that’s making it easy for Windows 10 users with computers that can’t upgrade to Windows 11, to install Linux instead of sending good hardware to the landfill.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Among lot of distro, Linux mint has to be the closest to windows and more refined

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Windows 10 end of life is just nature's way of setting you free.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Hopefully many more Windows refugees would embrace the Kingdom of Torvalds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Show me how to use the Xbox app in Linux and I will switch today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Game pass not worth supporting shitty behavior over.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

But isnt this like asking "Show me how to run Nintendo Services on the PS5 and I will switch"?

Windows has it's own ecosystem just as much as Linux has it's own ecosystem, so expecting Linux to run everything Microsoft is kinda of unreasonable IMO.

To switch an OS also means to switch an ecosystem. You wouldn't move from Android to iOS expecting it to run Android's .apk, right?

I'm not criticizing you tho, if a service you rely on doesnt work on Linux, then Linux isnt for you, and you're free to use Windows, an OS is just a tool after all 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I dual boot at this point. I have a POP_OS! nvme where I do normal pc stuff and maybe some light single player gaming, then I boot into my windows ssd for the heavier anticheat stuff. Imma be completely honest though. For most people I recommend just upgrading to windows 11 if you can. Linux is great but I think if someone just cares about gaming they should stick to windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

My gaming computer under my TV is windows 10. My laptop where I do adult things is Linux mint. It's a valid strategy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Completely valid take. I think that most Linux gamers dual boot (at least inside my circle of friends) (but no me tho, I'm Linux exclusive!) I think that when people doscuss Linix vs Windows, they often forget that you dont necessarily need to get rid of one system in favor of the other, you can simply integrate Linux into your workflow.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Bad take.

First, bad analogy because on windows pc, Xbox runs smoothly while on PS5, Nintendo services were never allowed.

Second, Linux is for him because the more people that switch to Linux and use it over corpo spyware OSs the better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

Not sure if serious

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Gamepass was made to have you in the ecosystem so you really can't, and I don't blame you since it helps with these expensive games like the new Doom

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Or pretty much almost any game or driver issues.

I like Linux but these video game developers dont support their game properly for Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Majority of steam games work without issue nowadays ime

[–] [email protected] 35 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last Windows? I 'member.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Technically, they didn’t, they just never corrected someone who did, and it spread far.

[–] LeFantome 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I was for many of us. So, they were not totally wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

So much this. I had dabbled with Linux on various sbc knockoff raspberry pis and put one distro on an old netbook that I gave to a friend. Now my main laptop is going full penguin.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

They didn't. They said it was the last version of windows you'd ever need.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I'm glad people are helping others move to Linux once the EOL support for Windows 10 comes. There's no reason for good hardware to end up rotting in a landfill. Not only can people use these machines still, it helps the environment since there's less electronics wasting away in landfills since most people don't properly recycle electronics.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

My old gaming PC isn't "good enough" for Win11 (tpm2 ofc), yet compared to the Win11 PC my wife's work forced on her you'd think it was some sort of future supercomputer

If enough people actually ditch their hardware then we server admins are going to eat good this year, mmmmmmm

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Can’t you just install bit defender? It’s just that one chip on the board that was added about 10 yrs ago to prevent hackers using that desktop tunnel on the elderly. So dumb that they had to promote large scale computer waste over a piece of hardware smaller than a thumb drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

It's part of the design. You think their partners weren't ecstatic about them implementing something like this, that has a very easy work around that they aren't advertising‽

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Once it goes eol, get it off the network. But lots of other good ideas already in here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

quick question - what the hell do you do with a modern computer without internet access anyways?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Local services only

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It really needs to be made louder that if you are stuck on 10 that you should not let it have internet access

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Unless you switch to IoT LTSC, which will continue to get security updates until 2032. It's kinda bullshit that they're still making the security patches and then just refusing to give them to consumer 10 users.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Your average user should not be on that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I guess I sort of agree? It's a bit tricky to get it set up, for sure. Even just installing windows is probably beyond the average user, and this has a few more quirks and gotchas than normal.

E.g., in IoT LTSC 11 (which is what I'm actually currently using), when you connect a controller, it'll bring up an error message about not having a handler for ms-gamebar, and fixing that calls for regedit. (One it's fixed, though, it stays fixed.) It also got itself into a bit of a weird state during the initial installation where it wanted me to log in with a kind of account I don't have, and while I was able to bypass that, I don't think I did it in quite the right way, and it broke something in the install and I had to do an in-place repair install to fix it before it would install certain updates successfully. It was also failing to download the in-place repair install, so I had to look up how to do it manually using the install DVD I'd burned previously. But that fixed it, and it's been fine since.

So, yeah, it's got pitfalls and quirks and glitches. That's also been my experience with other Windows installs, though, so it didn't seem all that different in general.

But once you get those initial hurdles sorted out, it's really just like normal Windows. Better, even, since it doesn't have all the cruft built into it, like Cortana, Teams, OneDrive, start menu ads, nag screens about upgrading to 11, the Microsoft Store, etc. (Though you can add most of those if you really want them.) My aging parents aren't willing to upgrade to 11 because they're afraid too many things will have changed, and I'm thinking I'll probably switch them to 10 IoT LTSC instead. I'll just have to be careful to make sure everything they want to do works before I leave them to it. It still gets monthly security updates and everything.

[–] LeFantome 1 points 15 hours ago

They are selling them. Look into ESU (Extended Security Updates).

$30 a year.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Quick question. I have a studio pc running win 10, with dozens of audio and video projects. It's basically impossible to transfer to Linux, macOs or even win 11 since it involves a ton of audio plugins, etc. and my projects would become unsable.

What does end of supports involve for me? I actually disable updates and a while back since it was sometimes screwing things up. My most recent projects are done either on my M1 mac (work thing) or my most recent.Linux station on Nobara. Should I be worried about anything? Should I disconnect my old studio pc from the internet to avoid it being fucked by microsoft?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

or even win 11 since it involves a ton of audio plugins, etc. and my projects would become unsable.

Have you looked into this? Because Windows 11 is so much Windows 10 with a UI change that they didn’t even update the NT number.

Like, Windows 2000 was NT 5, and XP, which was very similar to 2000, was NT 5.1.

But Windows 11 isn’t NT 10.1, it’s still NT 10.

At their core they’re very similar. I’d be shocked if something designed for 10 wouldn’t work with 11.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

Get the w10 enterprise edition that gets patched for 4 more years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

You should back up your windows 10 pc as an image and use it as a virtual machine on the Mac or some other Linux environment. Once support stops nothing really bad would happen, besides security stuff and maybe perhaps some unexpected hugs. So you could just disconnect it from the internet too but the VM option isn’t reliant on the hardware which could go bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Intetesting, I didn't thought of that. I'll give it a try. If I can get an image to run in a VM to allow me to access archived project when needed, that would be the perfect solution. I'm just worried about all the plugins activation, etc. Hopefully it will work. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Unexpected hugs are the best kind of hugs.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

And even if you don't want to... Find someone who does! Donate that laptop to someone. Find a LUG or Mutual Aid group or a friendly local anarchist :)

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