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Just announced on twitch.tv/pax, live from PAX East. The reaction was so negative to what happened with Giant Bomb that Fandom sold to Jeff Grubb and Jeff Bakalar. It sounds like this deal closed yesterday. Along with those two, Dan Ryckert and Jan Ochoa are now co-owners. Mike Minotti was informed of this deal this morning, and he will be the fifth co-owner when he comes back from Disney World. Blight Club and Grubb's morning news show sound like they are returning this coming week. This PAX panel is officially episode #889 of the Giant Bombcast.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'll say this: props to Fandom for realizing the right thing to do. I know there was really no other good solution for them, but that hasn't stopped many companies from being so obstinate that they cut their nose off to spite their face.

But more seriously, good for those guys buying it. I hope it goes well for them.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hope the indie and AA game communities/devs keep moving off of Fandom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I feel like they have a deal with Google/search engines to have independent wikis downranked. There’s no reason why UESP should show up below the TES fandom wiki.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"to what happened with Giant Bomb"

Boy I sure am glad that seemingly-crucial part of context was included in this post.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A boss several steps up the chain decided to make changes to how the site operates that were incompatible with what Giant Bomb is, namely that they wanted an advertiser-friendly, "brand-safe" image with less swearing and streaming. This led to a number of key people leaving, at which point, the name Giant Bomb isn't really worth anything to anyone. It's been covered in tons of gaming circles this week alongside the similar destruction of Polygon, so I didn't think it needed to be stated yet again as I was summarizing bullet points from a live stream.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’s been covered in tons of gaming circles this week alongside the similar destruction of Polygon, so I didn’t think it needed to be stated yet again as I was summarizing bullet points from a live stream.

Very fair and valid.

I will just gently state that this is c/games, not c/gamingcircles and thus many of us are very interested in video games but not necessarily the industries on the periphery thereof, so what seems "yet again" to you might be a first time for others.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Very true. Though at the same time, you probably could have found that context you were looking for by typing a couple of those words into your favorite search engine or Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean sure but we could all just do that with everything and we wouldn’t need Lemmy at all lmao

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago

You wouldn't know what to search for, but in this case you would.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I agree with you, but I do believe that is an unrealistic expectation for interacting with casual lemmy posts when a custom of including relevant context exists. But all good, I'll admit my lack of awareness on this one; you did nothing wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Second Wind is filling the "Yahtzee rants about a game that I'm unlikely to play anytime soon" hole nicely.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

I’m curious if any of the previously let go people will end up returning now that it’s independent.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

Honestly can't believe it. So happy to see this on the stream.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know nothing about anything in this post, I misread the title as “purchased by Fandom” and was confused as to why everyone is happy about this lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Holy shit I misread that too and was sooo confused

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now bring Jeff back and make him play Mario Party.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’d start watching regularly again if Jeff somehow came back

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Which Jeff? Jeff, Jeff, or Jeff? Jeff and Jeff are now co-owners, and Jeff has his own solo thing, being a family man, which seems to be how he wants to live his life these days.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I’d say the Jeff that hates Mario party, but now that I think about it, I don’t know how Jeff, Jeff, or Jeff feels about it. I only know how Jeff feels about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

I always wanted to do a podcast called Just Jeffs, where I interview other Jeffs. But I'd love it if they used the name instead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What a roller coaster of a ride ! At least they have a fighting chance, and (hopefully for them) did not take too big a financial risk.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Good news for those who are into the current generation of GB.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

I hope they take a shot at written content again. It's less a gaming website and more of a podcast network at this point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

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Disgusting. I don't demand or expect them to rewrite their website, but those people are nowhere near even "neutral" status, as long as they behave this way.

Certainly not allies or friends I would support.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The sale is also hours old, and the new owners are all out of town.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago

Ok, I'm looking forward to them changing this practice then. We'll see if they do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They literally just split off of Fandom. There has been no time to do anything about this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago

Ok, I'm looking forward to them changing this practice then. We'll see if they do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I don't know these people. Should I?

I knew the old crew. Still watch Jeff on YouTube.

I see Dan is there. He's too uneducated and incurious American for my tastes. Bro doesn't know shit about anything but wrestling. It's play up for laughs but it's just cringe to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bakalar joined GB East 10 years ago. Jan's been at GB for 7+ years, but as a producer so you wouldn't have seen his face as much until the big shift when Jeff, Brad, Vinny and Alex left. Grubb only joined in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A good catch up, but I meant more like: are these people worth following? Because yeah I didn't stick around once the east/west split happened to know these people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Grubb's got an excellent morning news show that he'll be back to doing this coming week if you wanted to poke your head in and check it out. They've also got a number of shows that are a good laugh, like Blight Club, where they take turns playing awful video games all the way to credits.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can only take so much of Dan, but I like the rest of them. Grubb is great, Jan is a sweetheart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Alright, I'll give the new to me crew a go. Thanks for the follow ups!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow, there is someone else out there that feels the same as I do about Dan!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I wasn't sure how others felt about him before either, kinda validated haha.