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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

If AI companies can pirate, so can individuals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

They are just illegally selling us off as slaves. That is what is happening. All our fault for not having strong citizen watchdogs, clamping down on this behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I wonder how they decided which artist to include in the thumbnail image.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

AI really shows the absurdity of intellectual property as a concept, the very way we learn, every idea we can have, every mental image we can create is the sum of copying and adapting the things we perceive and ideas that have predated our own, you can see this from the earliest forms of art where simple shapes and patterns were transmuted and adapted into increasingly complex ones or through the influence of old innovations into new ones, for example the influence of automatons on weaving looms with punched pegs and their influence on babbage machines and eventually computers. IP is ontological incoherent for this reason you cannot "own" an idea so much as you can own the water of one part of a stream

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with you, but AI companies shouldn't get an exclusive free pass.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Oh yes, I am not saying that at all. I am still very unsure on my views of AI from a precautionary standpoint and I think that its commercial use will lead to more harm than good but if these things are the closest analogs we have to looking at how humans learn and create it shows IP is ridiculous- I mean we do not even need them to see this, if an idea was purely and solely one person's property the idea of someone from the sentinel island (assuming they have not left and learnt oncology) inventing the cure for brain cancer is as likely as a team of oncologists at Oxford doing it.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

hello yes I'm an ai company. let me torrent all the things pls thank you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

My mind is AI and I need this content to train it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

That's exactly what Meta did, they torrented the full libgen database of books.

If they can do it, anybody should be able to do it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I like how their whole excuse to that was "WE DIDN'T SEED ANY OF IT BACK THOUGH" which arguably makes it even worse lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

It doesn't. You can download anything you want, distribution is what is illegal and criminal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Technically it was never illegal in the US to download copywritten content. It was illegal to distribute them. That was literally Meta's defence in court: they didn't seed any downloads.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

they didn’t seed any downloads

So Meta, 100% leeching.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

should start up our own ai company anyone is free to join

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I identify as an AI company ☠️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

no no, i mean people should actually start utilizing this bullshit. Anyone can start a company and with some technical knowhow you can add somekind of ai crap to it. companies dont have to make profit or anything useful so there is no pressure to do anything with it.

But if it comes to copyright law not applying to ai companies, why should some rich assholes be only ones exploiting that? It might lead to some additional legal bullshit that excludes this hypotetical kind of ai company, but that would also highlight better that the law benefits only the rich.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

No more ads on youtube

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh good I see Labour are dealing with the real issues in society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Modern Labour and not giving a fuck about workers, name a more iconic duo.

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