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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

most 3d printing is done with PLA which doesn't create microplastics.

although other 3d printing materials can create.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I like 3d printers because they allow me to make my mechanical contraptions extremely fast and with ease comparing to, say, cutting them from wood. None of the stuff I make is going to revolutionize the world, but that was never the goal for me.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don’t think the 3d printers out there are a significant producer of plastic waste in the grand scheme of things. They can actually prevent a lot of waste by making replacement parts or fixing something to meet a new use case.

But the narrative that they were going to revolutionize everything comes out of this idea that things are generally improved by the production of more stuff, more niche gizmos and doodads. It is a facet of the thinking behind over consumption.

Often that kind of thinking even gets in the way of implementing solutions to real problems. Much easier to sell people on an ineffective solution based in more stuff than a solution that requires them to alter their life style or accept a little inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

this idea that things are generally improved by the production of more stuff, more niche gizmos and doodads. It is a facet of the thinking behind over consumption.

Yeah like look at all the consumer tech we have now, and are we any happier? There's a cruel optimism to chasing these gewgaws.

There's that, and also looking at "technology" (in the general sense) as this messianic thing that will eventually save us all if we just keep accelerating and inventing things and crashing forward into the future — we'll eventually tumble into the beautiful green glade at the end of history where nothing hurts and all is harmonious — all without ever having to do any messy introspection or trying to solve our problems with what we have right now.

Anyway it's foolish. But I blame the owners more than the consumers.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most of the guys I know who have 3d printers are so eager to have someone ask them to make a specific thing for them on the 3d printer, and it's always really practical makes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s me. Sort of. Don’t get me wrong, my wife is rapidly running out of room in her office for all the cute animals I have printed for her (that she didn’t ask for, I just surprise her with them sometimes 😅).

But I’ve rapidly reached the stage where I want to print but have covered most of my own needs for printed stuff. So any time anyone asks if I can print something, I’m thrilled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I mean, making cute animals is part of most hobbies. I have created more little animals with crochet than I can count, and I don't necessarily see 3d printing as anymore wasteful than crochet

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I've done a couple prints for friends or relatives. My most recent print is a simple miny peg-chess set so I can learn from my chess books with a physical board and pieces.

Not exactly practical, but still useful.

I've successfully solved several real life problems with my printer, and it's always nice to find something practical to make or fix.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there a reason the board is 3 colours?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

IDK, but it certainly looks aesthetically pleasing, to me at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

For 3D chess?

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I highly doubt that 3D printing of all things is making any meaningful contribution to the microplastics problem. Plastics are absolutely everywhere, so it feels weird to pin blame on a small group of enthusiasts just making silly shit at very low volumes.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I fucken repair shit with 3D printed parts so that I don't need to buy new shit.

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[–] riskable 36 points 2 days ago

Not only that but most 3D printing is done with PLA which doesn't generate meaningful microplastics. I mean, it does but they only last a short time out in the wild. A study funded by the state of California found that PLA will last up to three years of left out in the environment (e.g. not in a trash dump).

Three years is nothing. Also consider that many animals can eat and digest PLA. Furthermore, if it ends up in your body it will eventually be broken down.

The real microplastics problem comes from tires and plastics like ABS that are used in f'ing everything. ABS microplastics last like 400 years or something like that.

Other plastics last even longer but the studies I've looked at all suggest the same thing: Tires and ABS.

Even PET water bottles aren't as bad because they only last 80-100 years (until *fully" broken down). That sounds like a long time but also consider that PET fibers are mostly inert and don't seem to absorb and re-release nasty things like ABS.

Don't get me wrong: PET microplastics (which mostly consist of tiny fibers from textiles—not from bottles) are 100% a problem. They're just a fraction of the problem of everything else.

For reference, the biggest problem with PET fibers is that they float and can be carried by the wind. That means they tend to settle on top of soil which causes it to absorb more heat and retain less moisture... Requiring more watering. Whereas the butawhateverthefucktoxicshit that tires break down into can result in soil that's harmful to life (in general). Enough of it and nothing will grow at all.

That's why you rarely see weeds sprouting up from kids playgrounds that were filled with chopped up car tires. Well, that and the fact that they can get really hot.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

It's the individual responsibility argument of environmentalism all over again. It's mostly large corporations dictating law to do very intentional things at often incomprehensible scales that is responsible for the vast majority of pollution, and it's those same large corporations which promulgated the notion that environmentalism is everyone's equal responsibility and if you don't recycle your plastic bottles or drink through a paper straw you're the problem.

This isn't to say that individuals should not be environmentally conscientious, but it shifts the blame to be woefully incongruous with reality and leads to individualist virtue contests like this post.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not that deep I just wanted to satyrize 3d printer enthusiasts cause it's funny

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This seems a bit strawman to me, no? The people who are doing crazy builds with hundreds of parts are often doing it specifically for your social media impression. Most of the stuff I print on my Prusa is small parts for my bikes or my car. Little missing pieces of fixtures around the house. If I'm ever printing something feckless it's because a friend really wanted a 3d articulated slug. I will say though, the waste plastic from edges, supports, failed builds, etc adds up over time and it's dead-end waste like most other plastic. I have several paper grocery bags full of the stuff. But that's exactly why I don't like printing feckless crap.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've seen a video of someone experimentally recycling that into new filament. Unfortunately, there's probably not a commercial product for that.
Also, if I recall correctly, they had an issue with keeping it at constant width.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

There are a couple of commercial solutions out there, and the fancier ones have sensors that measure the width and makes adjustments on the fly

They are quite pricey though, the cheapest one i found (a couple of years ago) was priced at like 10k$

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's that glove thingy good for?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's a cast for injuries.

Now you tell me what the bottom thing is supposed to be.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's an impossibly large gearbox. Even smaller ones would take decades of turning the first cog to move the last one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Thank you. I've seen this post so many times, and this is the first time someone's said what that was.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I don't hate 3d printers I think they're an awesome technology, but enthusiasts sure love printing bullshit

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's easier to print bullshit than to learn cad. I'm learning to model by printing gridfinity organizers. It's easy and practical. I waste less time searching for junk and waste more time modeling the bins. 👍

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think at least 80% of my printing is organizers.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It's beautiful 😍

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

I like 3d modeling cute lil creatures and printing them ;_;

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I MUST see a video of those gears running

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iirc thats a device that exponentially turns slower and slower. Something like gear 1 turns every second and the last gear will move 1 tooth every 100 billion years or something stupid like that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Conversely, turn the gear at the other end and see the first one move at warp speed for a second before it all comes undone or friction welds itself in place.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

the most useful things I've made with 3d printers are tiny, I feel like there are better tools for making larger things

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