Pp did not resign and indicated he would keep going
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Resign or not, his career is finished with the conservatives. Every leader before him who failed at an election was removed, asked to step aside or pushed out.
As someone who typically votes NDP, I’m fine with the idea. I didn’t especially dislike Singh, but I didn’t especially like him either.
Of course I don’t especially like Carney either but he was the safest choice to block PP and he did.
I want to see an NDP federal government someday, but Singh wasn’t really resonating with many people. Hopefully whoever fills the spot inspires more confidence.
that summarises my feelings. the NDP did a lot of good, but needed to hold the liberals feet to the fire more.
They supported the Liberals when they broke up union strikes, and when they did mass immigration after the cost of living exploded and we finally had wage pressure.
What is the point of the NDP at that point, just to prevent white people from speaking at rallies?
Every position of power needs term limits.
We can not allow our politicians to get comfortable ever.
It always leads to corruption
A neighbor from the south would like to send his congratulations. Thank you for not following in our footsteps!
This is the change we voted for. I hope all these fuckers take note, change leadership, and push for PR.
It wouldn't hurt to present future platforms that don't look as ~~removed~~ dumb as Poilievre's.
Thanks for sharing. This is exactly the information we need at this time in our history.
Preview to entice the lazy - here's text only from the link above (there are several links within this text in the original):
Simple things you can do to grow the PR movement:
Donate to proportional representation advocacy, AisB, or PR supporting parties.
Subscribe and post to the [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) community.
Educate: A Simple Guide to Electoral Systems.
Follow: List of social media accounts for Canadian Democracy.
Consume only Canadian Owned and Operated Media.
Vote and encourage others to vote every opportunity you can!
Share this list with others!
Also see: We must keep advocating for proportional representation. If PR dies, so does Canadian democracy as we know it. FPTP is already pushing us toward a two-party system, just like the USA.
Conservative is just another word for fascist
What the fuck. Clear your head. No it isn't. But fascists support right wing parties.
Yes it is. Conservatives have shown time and time again that they will vote and cheer for fascism if conditions are bad enough.
You are part of the problem. The normalization of conservative politics leads directly to fascism.
The founders of conservative ideology, people like Burke and DeMaistre, were literally monarchists. Conservatism has always been an attempt to whitewash and justify tyranny.
These are strange times indeed.
This election was so weird in so many ways, I think it will be some time before we fully understand what it all means.
I'm just terrified about the younger generation skewing conservative. I get why, but it doesn't make me worry any less. Carney better make housing affordable that all I know.
The younger generation isn't just skewing conservative they are skewing authoritative. Some theories I've heard they have seen what the current system has done and want to try something different.
From what I understand, housing has a lot less to do with the federal government and more to do with your municipal and even provincial government. If you are keen on housing improvements, make sure to check with your local mlas and what they have planned for housing. More tangible results will come from there first.
Oh absolutely. But there is plenty the feds can be doing as well. In fact I would argue the financialization of housing is more in the realm of the feds.
Yeah, Carney is on an anti-PP ticket. If he doesn't do drastic changes that all demographics see, we're in for whatever hurt the next con leader brings. It's kinda like the UK election and I hope Carney doesn't shit the bed like Starmer. If he understands this and is willing to act, he can.
I worry even if he does make changes they’ll get ignored or overly politicized like the carbon tax was.
The LPC needs to be 100x better at communication, that is largely what left room for cheap slogans to crush Trudeau.
He needs to get Canadian news out of Postmedia's hands.
He needs to get Canadian news out of Postmedia’s hands.
And regulate Meta into showing and paying for Canadian news. Also somehow unfucking the algo but I doubt they'd succeed into doing much about that.
The LPC needs to be 100x better at communication
Maybe someone should communicate to them that they were elected when they promised electoral reform and they never delivered.
Loudly and aggressively.
I worry even if he does make changes they’ll get ignored or overly politicized like the carbon tax was.
Oof, yeah. I mean one way to help it is to achieve significant enough results that people see and feel in their lives. Universal dental and pharmacare would be two obvious, short-term low hanging fruits. But yeah, they still need to advertise that they did it. Mid-term everyone is waiting on housing costs.
Those kids are going to get their faces rubbed in USA fascism for the next four years. Every horror they come up with as their country burns they'll be witness to.
We'll see if they stay conservative or not.
The definition of conservative needs to change. We're allowed to be fiscally conservative without being hateful bigots. The problem is, the existing parties keep aligning themselves with the wack-jobs, and the alternatives are... the Liberals.
+1. I am on the left, but I can meet in the middle with a fiscal conservative. Wouldn't like having one in power, but I can live with it.
Social conservatives though? As a trans person, and looking at what's going on south of the border and in the UK, I consider social conservatives to be an existential threat.
I wish we had a legitimately multi-party system that didn't encourage all the conservatives to be under the same umbrella; I would feel a lot safer.
The definition of conservative needs to change. We're allowed to be fiscally conservative without being hateful bigots.
That's called "liberalism." In fact, that's always been called "liberalism." The only reason more people don't understand that fact is that extremist right-wing propaganda is incredibly effective.
I was just thinking that BQ still have their leader on, but naur, they’re almost wholly regionalistic that it’s not really worth talking about in terms of a national leadership reset. It would be straight up disastrous for BQ as a whole if Blanchet wasn’t even elected as MP.
That said, PP has a chance at staying on as leader; he may have squandered the last few months leading up to the election, but from the various polls we’ve seen, the gap was closing between the LPC and the CPC, and PP has the historic vote share to pressure the party’s leadership into letting him stay
Jagmeet is unfortunate but his time was far over. You could argue that the NDP was sacrificed for the LPC (f you FPTP), but in many provinces, their seatsand even vote share were somewhat evenly split between the LPC and the CPC, so it’s not purely a consequence of strategic voting; the CPC definitely ate some of their original pie. Not only is this bad news for the NDP (cause it means they’ve really disappointed their supporters), but that some of these disappointments may have led to voters swinging to the other side. We’ll have to wait until we see voter turnout data to give us more hints about what else we should takeaway from this election.
The LPC, well, Carney’s already a new leader, so the reset’s already done there, but the other people aren’t likely to change, at least there hasn’t been an indication of that. They have their work cut out for them this time, and it will be a really tough 4 years ahead, or shorter. If they disappoint, and couldn’t solve at least a few of the crises we’re in right now, they might really get fully wiped out. I hope they actually are aware of that fact, especially given how dangerously close the CPC is to them (vote share, not seats, though they’re arguably pretty close in seats too).
I really hope the LPC actually recognizes that they’re deep in the water right now, and that there are people in the LPC with visions that’ll prioritize the longevity of the Canadian center and left by implementing PR, in case they actually fail to deliver and get wiped off the national stage.
The BQ was at 4 seats in 2011 and look where it is now, it would survive YFB losing, just like it did losing Duceppe.
I felt like all of the leaders were haggard and ineffective, so I’m glad.
I hope we can bring in more leaders with an updated idea of how things work and a better focus on communication and policies.
I also want fewer politicians if that makes sense, I want a government that criticizes the liberals and goes “here’s how we could do that better” instead of dumb rhetoric.