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[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Another waste of our time and money. It's a bill to try and force companies to remove content they don't like...or else.

This will be shot down in court (again), and since the platforms themselves will be responsible for removing content, will not be forced to comply. It's unconstitutional and unenforceable, so just a big ass waste of everyone's fucking time. So dumb.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re assuming the courts will shoot it down. That’s a big assumption these days.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Show me one case where a judge has ruled an unconstitutional thing is suddenly constitutional in all these court cases. Even SCOTUS isnt playing that game.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least two members of SCOTUS are definitely playing that game

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Two members that know what would happen to them if they fracture codified law and intentionally do not. 300 million of us vs thousands in government.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well not 300 million of us, since seemingly every registered Republican in the nation is also ecstatic about tearing the constitution to pieces. And they’re nearly the only ones among us who actually choose to own guns and have the capacity to actually do anything about it.

[–] DrDeadCrash 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Allowing trump to run again after inciting an insurrection?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, not been a court case. If he tries, it will be shot down. There is no wiggle room for bullshit in the constitution about this.

[–] DrDeadCrash 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes there has been a court case, Colorado didn't want to put Trump on the ballot because of the insurrection clause, it went up to the supreme Court and they said it was A-OK.

Edit, link: https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/03/supreme-court-rules-states-cannot-remove-trump-from-ballot-for-insurrection/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

When they ruled he has immunity. And in may well hear the supreme courts ruling on the legitimacy of the fourteenth amendment. Then there’s Eileen Cannon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not in the constitution. That was a Supreme Court judgement (Roe v Wade) that was overturned.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Roe v Wade determined that the right to privacy was in the Constitution (due process clause of 4th Amendment) and that Texas laws restricting it were unconstitutional.

States restricting abortion was the unconstitutional thing which was suddenly Constitutional again after Dobbs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, that is how Supreme Court decisions work. Did you imagine that once a thing was ruled unconstitutional, or vice versa, that it could never be reversed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, I didn't imagine that.

Did you read the direct thread to my comment?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Presidential immunity. It's a blanket statement of "you're wrong" to everything you could possibly follow up with attempting to rebutt that statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Presidential immunity doesn't extend to every other person acting at the direction of the President. In fact, it extends to nobody. It may not even work if prosecuted, because that's not what SCOTUS actually said. They only said that president couldn't essentially be held liable for presidential actions, and then didn't clarify exactly what those were. They intentionally didn't specifically make a list of this actions, which depending on your viewpoint, means it's everything, or nothing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Oh I like that. Schrodinger's box with presidential immunity in it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Even progressive darlen AOC voted for this bullshit. You know who won't Sanders.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So how would this work with the fediverse? Like we federate all content...its going to be VERY difficult to do anything if political content creators keep being told to take it down.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It doesnt work. Literally unenforceable outside of traditional walled gardens.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wow. If the fediverse is only operable by meta's instance inside the USA, I'm really going to miss everyone, because I'm just not, with meta.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

so we create a walled garden of our own.

can't complain if the public can't view it.

someone takes screenshots of the problematic content and shares it? well they're in trouble for posting/sharing problematic content.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, it's worse than that. It's impossible to meet the standards set in this and other bills of it's type without having a shortlist of curated, controlled people creating online content. That's literally the point, keeping people from interesting with information they deem unsavory.

That said, it is impossible to enforce unless they want to set up the great firewall of america.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

basically only Right wing propaganda is allowed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

such as reddit, we already know they have been doing it at the behest of the gop since '16

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Free speech? What are those?