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I've been trying to get luarocks to work on windows, and all it gives is cryptic gcc errors.

How does pip manage to work on most platforms without issues?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

It's a 17 year old tool in the world's most popular scripting language. It's effectively had billions of tests run against it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Pip is amazing. It does somethings in seconds that take anaconda over an hour to do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm surprised to hear you say this because in all honesty, pip really sucks as far as package managers go. uv is a worthy replacement.

[–] sus 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think this is talking about basic functionality, eg. can you do basic stuff with a clean install without everything immediately breaking

There's a lot of programming tools that are primarily developed for and on linux, and "windows support" is an afterthought which will result in linux being a very frictionless experience but windows being a minefield of problems and requiring careful manual setup

[–] irelephant 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Compared to luarocks, pip is amazing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe so, but pip is years behind package managers like cargo. It really is not particularly good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Sure, and Luarocks is behind pip, and it really is particularly bad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're getting gcc errors it sounds like the package you're trying to install contains some c/c++ stuff that needs compiling.

A lot of python packages that rely on things written in c/c++ ship those precompiled, which might account for why it feels easier for you.

[–] irelephant 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry if it was unclear, I constantly get cryptic gcc errors using luarocks a package manager for lua. Its years behind pip.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No, you were clear. That's what I understood you to mean.

[–] irelephant 2 points 18 hours ago

Ah, I'm the one who misread, sorry.

Yeah, compiling things from scratch is the norm for lua packages, making them really only work on linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pip cannot install some system dependencies your library might need. Windows is extra difficult sometimes, as the library might require some paths during installation, Linux is way easier for this kind of stuff. Either you use WSL, or you follow these instructions for Windows I found by googling https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/blob/main/docs/installation_instructions_for_windows.md

I use Mint btw

[–] irelephant 1 points 1 day ago

The instructions don't work half the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd love to hear a technical answer, but one thing that's probably part of it is the fact that pip is written in Python and Python runs everywhere without much problem (though uv also seems to work pretty flawlessly too lol)

[–] irelephant 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lua runs everywhere (almost), but I cannot install a uuid library on windows.

[–] Kissaki 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

IIRC I've had pip fail like that too. Unable to build a lib it included.

[–] irelephant 1 points 19 hours ago

Pip does fail sometimes, but its not half as bad as luarocks.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@irelephant do anyone care a thing about windoze? :O

[–] irelephant 2 points 1 day ago

Lack of windows support for most luarocks modules has stopped me from writing a lot of stuff in lua.