Wab Kinew seems to be doing well. But I don't know if MB would give him up.

Implying that the NDP wasn’t elected due to their leader being a visible minority is either disingenuous or very misinformed. There are of course bigots in Canada, but most Canadians aren’t bigots.

I always liked Singh as a person, but I feel like NDP needs some change. They are a party focused on throwing shade on other parties. They need their own identity.

Either way, I’m guessing the 7 NDP and 1 Green basically become de facto Liberals to create a pseudo majority since at least that way they’ll have some influence and it wouldn’t be in their best interest to topple the government and go through all this again.

Liberals will have massive leverage over the NDP and the Greens. Neither of them want an election immediately. The NDP need to get their house in order and the Greens have to figure out going forward.

he ran scared of the media

He grew up at the knee of Harper. He's only doing what he was taught.

Generously, Trump put him in a bind. On the one hand around a third of his supporters would be down with being the 51st state, or are at least fans of what Trump is doing. If he came out too hard against Trump, he could have bled support to the PPC,

Ironically, electoral reform would save the Conservative Party. It would probably split back into a more PC style centre-right party and a more populist Reform style party. I think an old Joe Clark style PC leader could have done better, but with ⅓ of the modern CPC Qonvoy supporting Trumpians, I don't know that they could elect one. If they did, it would be Erin O'Toole all over again.

he did

I held my nose and did it too. I am the leftiest lefty that ever lefted but the NDP was not really an option this time.

I said I'd never vote Liberal again and stay NDP hard liner after vote reform was kaboshed. No matter anyone's opinion on that, it was why I voted Justin once.

But here we are.

It's looking like people like you made the difference, based on the vibe of the early results. It's close.

Edit: It's pulling apart as things go on.

A noble sacrifice.

Imagine if he came in 91st. It'd be a heritage moment up there with balcony guy

We also need a better NDP leader. I like Jagmeet but he has not succeeded at this.

It's not even a coalition.

Coallitons are when the party with the most seats (but not a majority) doesn't form government because the other parties all work together to form government.

When the party with the most seats (but not majority) forms government with the help of another party on non confidence votes , it's just a minority government.

They just try to scare people with the coalition talk to try and make it seem nefarious, such as when it almost happened to Harper, but it's a legitimate part of how our government works.

There was a point while votes were being counted tonight, we could have theoretically had a con+bq coalition government.

Edit: and even as of right now, the cons+bq+ndp could form a coalition, but I can't imagine those 3 parties ever working together other than to trigger an election via vote of no confidence.

the article I read about him said that he left his job to raise his children fulltime while his wife worked. then goes on to say his children are well into their post-secodary degrees so he's been renovating his house and talking everyone's ear off about how great it is because of its greenness. One of the things he'd like to do as MP is help other people renovate their houses the same way he did.

Losing to Carney, a serious member of the financial class is one thing. But losing to full time parent of 2 adults, who loves eco-friendly home renos is another thing. It's interesting that neither men has held a conventional job in 20 years. Not to mention the dynamics (esp gender) of one of them having spent the time being a homemaker and the other being a brainwrecker.

We best start fighting back regardless of how it turns out.