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β€œThe one thing that we have to watch is to make sure we don’t see more countries in a similar boat as where we are with China. We’re watching the EU,” Boeing CEO and President Kelly Ortberg said.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

lol at Boeing selling off their safety reputation long term for a quick profit injection and now they’re complaining that no-one will buy their death traps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Fuck Boeing's CEO. We don't need their doors falling on our roofs mid-flight. Let's strengthen existing European plane manufacturers and revive some we lost over the years like Fokker et al.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Airbus goes brrrrrrrr

[–] [email protected] 83 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Boing: "All those damn regulations exist only to keep us out of the european market!"

The regulations: "Plane must fly safe"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Think the problem is they don't much boing, either...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago

Sure, it's EU "closing off". Meanwhile USA is literally building walls to keep people in the country from escaping.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Well, if you would actually focus on building planes that are safe to fly, maybe regulators in the EU would have a harder time objecting to your flying death-traps 🀦

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Boeing is also a big military contractor. Speculatively, she might be referring to that part of the business primarily.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Well the EU is also trying to move away from US military suppliers since the US has become an unreliable partner. Imagine you buy US planes then Trump wakes up on the wrong side of the pillow one day and forbids export of spare parts for those planes. How you're just fucked. Better to make your own or go for suppliers from another EU country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Unfortunately EU being militarily autonomous is gonna take years if not decades ( but at least now we are on the right track )

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Well, for that their only solution is to use their Central America regime change guidebook closer to home, and hope everyone forgets the US's propensity to elect imperialist assholes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That train has left the station.

They can pound sand

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I was just thinking about seeing this move in my How To Find A Scapegoat workbook.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago

If it’s Boeing I ain’t going

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I just can't get these people... Do they seriously believe the nonsense they're spouting, or do they believe that we believe it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

They believe that their (head of) administration believes it and then uses their geopolitical leverage to ease their business.

And given that the administration led by a very dumb person, this might work out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Good point... god damn it...