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The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), "who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and 'fight harder'," rather than leaders who are willing to "compromise" with President Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 week ago (2 children)

72%? That's CLEAR CUT that we MUST move MORE RIGHT!

-The DNC Literally!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Yeah I’m expecting the dnc to double down with Kamala and maybe Pete as a running mate.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I'd bet real money they'll try to run Shapiro. They dont see a terrible republican competitor as a must-win competition, they see it as a chance to run the worst dem they can possibly get away with.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The actual question that 72% of Democrats support:

Do you support more Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and “fight harder”, or moderate Democrats who are willing to compromise on Trump issues important to their base?

The question is "do you want to fight Trump more" not "do you support AOC and Bernies progressive agenda".

Link to the actual poll results.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's interesting that they explicitly, rather than implicitly, chain compromise with Trump to the moderates, and fighting Trump to the progressives. Without that, that number might have even been higher. This reads to me like a solid condemnation of the moderates.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Kamala didn't lose by being "Too woke", she lost by saying "Maybe the Right can have a little fascism, ya know, as a treat?"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why I want to see AOC as a candidate and NOT Harris. We need a candidate who is less, "reaching across the aisle" and more "boots on necks."

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Centrist approach?

USA has a conservative Party and a Neonazi Party

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Sounds about White.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

THEN FUCKING DO IT.

If the party “leaders” aren’t with it, kick them the fuck out.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I think that's what's going to happen. AOC is taking on Chuck Schumer:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe if people show up to vote. The only poll that matters is in the voting booth.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Facts. It's all for naught is people can't get off their butts and vote.

Local voting is important too as is being engaged with local politics.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

In these 18 states you don't even have to get up. My ballots are mailed to me. I drop them off on my daily walk at a blue mailbox.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I want to abandon the centrist approach, period. No more reaching across the aisle, no more insider trading, no more letting capitalists dictate how society should be. America has given capitalism a nearly free hand to determine the nation's destiny, and it has lead to death camps, fascism, and stolen the prosperity that workers had earned with their sweat.

It is time to try a completely different approach to economics and an overhauled Constitution.

[–] andybytes 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't want to hate on it, but it's like we don't respect the Constitution as it is anyways. And the origins of this country was rich landowners. So technically we're all just kind of like livestock. I guess simply what I'm saying is we have to actually become a real country. And that will require kinetic input.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

It should have been a living document. This is how you know these idiots are a death cult.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

Abandon centrist approach and take a hard right turn? The Democratic Party hears you loud and clear! But seriously I do see the Sanders people in places of power I previously have not in the party - this is a very good sign in a very bad time

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Won't happen. There's long been a gap between what registered party members want and what those in charge actually do.

We saw the same thing in the UK a few years ago when Jeremy Corbyn got a huge swell of support from the party proper, but all the other Labour MPs collectively rounded on him and conspired to kick him out of the party altogether because he was going to put a stop to their gravy train.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

DNC: LOL no, but can you please send us just $20 this one time, before it's too late!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please, [wrong name], we need $5 to make Chuck Schumer wag his finger at the republicans for arresting all LGBT people

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And then Cuck Schumer votes to send all LGBTQ+ folx to extermination camps

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (12 children)

If we want leftist leadership we have to abandon the Democratic party.

I will be VERY surprised if the Neoliberals who have controlled the DNC for the last 50+ years would willingly give up control.

They proved in 2016 they would rather lose to Trump than allow leftists to change things at the expense of their rich doners.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

If we want leftist leadership we have to abandon the Democratic party.

You mean take over the Democratic party? If we abandon it, what will we use as a party framework? I don't know of another that's already built and running (and I don't mean Libertarians or Greens).

If you can't be associated to the term "Democratic" then that's a different story.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah. We can and should do a tea party style takeover. The iron is hot, let's strike.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Doesn't matter what the people want, the democrat's corporate masters make the decisions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

72% of Democrats Want Party to Abandon Centrist Approach to Trump

Party: But who will help us become exponentially richer then?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

And the dnc won’t listen cos rich fucks run it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

it's all about trump and nothing to do with ending the oligarchical regime that enables the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (31 children)

Bernie Sanders has been fighting oligarchy since before Trump and is Jewish and pro-Palestine.

Unfortunately MAGA runs every branch of the US government right now, so it's impossible to do anything without taking on MAGA first.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not only before trump, dudes been fighting for like the last 60 years or so

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Been a Bernie bro since the 2016 election and haven’t ever stopped. He’s a treasure like Dolly Parton.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Bernie and AOC's movement is literally called "Fighting Oligarchy". Not "Fighting Trump".

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Democrats won't abandon their centrist positions as long as the Clintons live. If voters want a party to represent them, they need to get rid of the current ones.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Surely you don't expect the Democrats to stop holding hands with nazis, do you?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Billionaires don't deserve a seat at the table.

We wouldn't let any other group of 3000 people contort our entire society to their will.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I want democrats to stop offering an olive branch. Stop trying to work with repugnicant MAGAts. They have shown you who they are deep down. They'll spit on you soon than help you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Still getting bribery from AIPAC?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Right: Genocide ALL undesirables without due process.

Left: Genocide nobody without due process.

Centrist: Clearly there is middle ground. So, lets genocide some people without due process.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

AOC and Sanders ARE the centrists. That’s the key to understanding the issue here.

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