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[–] [email protected] 94 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I have a feeling he designed the cyber truck and that's why it sucks so hard

[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nope, he didn't do that either

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

Yeah iirc, he boasted a bit about that and there's alot of engineers that responded to various comments about design oversights saying most of it was musks design, it was designed how he wanted it the way he wanted it, agianst the advice of engineers. They saw some these problems miles away but that car specifically was musks baby, his personal magnum opus, his personal design.

Probably a reason them being vandalized hirts him even more, not only is he an arrogant petulant child, that really is "his" creation. Treats it more like his kid then any of his children which "died" to wokeness.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

On an video done by common sense skeptic, he mentions that Teslas business plan was layed out by the original founders up until the launch of cybertruck. Indicating that Musks only major contribution was indeed the Cybertruck. He also has a couple of patents, one for the shape of the charger socket and the other one I can't recall.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well thats not completely true, he personally helped design the Cybersuck

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I hear its the fascist thing on wheels :3

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

According to some graffiti, that's true!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago

I remember some article about SpaceX a while ago, where an engineer says that the work day grinds to a halt whenever Musk arrives at the factory because he wants them to work in a very specific way that isn't actually conducive to being a rocket manufacturer, but which he thinks is how rocket manufacturers operate.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m sure he drew the first Cybertruck design, because no competent car designer would come up with an ugly monstrosity like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

The old school MS-DOS gaming groups on Facebook all mocked it on how it looked like it was an early 90s PC racing game car rendered in real life. Plenty of other 90s gamers also made similar claims about how it resembled clunky primitive 3D graphics of the era.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 days ago

never designed anything

i am convinced that he at least had a lot of say in the design of cybertruck. the sheer amount of design flaws on that thing is just too many to believe it was made by actual engineers without any input from a barely literate troglodyte.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The other day I was talking about musk to my GF, Me: “Musk is such a poser, he buys successful gaming accounts and pretends to be a top gamer by claiming those achievements as his own” GF: “Well, yeah, that tracks. Isn’t that what he does with his companies?”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

Musk = POS Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

~~Didn't he invent his college diploma? Heard something about that a while ago ;)~~

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just looked it up, it does not look like he made his degree up, but there was an issue where he was going to get his Economics degree in 1995, but stayed an extra 2 years to dual major in physics, then claimed he got the physics degree in 1995 instead of 1997 in business deals. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-physics-degree/

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I would argue Gwen Shotwell is to blame for spacex's success. Tom Muller made the engine, which is no mean feat, but Gwen built the company.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gwynne* Shotwell, but yea, she built the company.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

I also spelt Mueller wrong. I'm not a rocket appliances.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Of all the things that came from PayPal, musk and thiel being one of the worst things

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Elon musk has a few patents. Nothing revolutionary and some not even related to his current venture. But his companies successes come down to his ability to promise completely unachievable goals.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

This is exactly how Trump built himself up. As early as the 1970s when Trump was just starting to do his own ventures New York newspapers and editorials would jeer at him for being the biggest damn blowhard they ever saw. Someone who would promise the world and deliver nothing.

Yet this attitude worked... he managed to built a brand around himself as the successful businessman who, ironically, had no businesses successes. By the late 80s he was actively mocked by so much media it wasn't funny. Everything from sesame street to the 87 TMNT cartoon to the infamous Back to the Future 2 portrayal. It didn't stop there. It continued into the 90s with the villain in the 1993 Super Mario Bros movie being heavily based on Trump, as well as the villain in the 1994 movie Time Cop.

Everyone from playboy to a ton of other magazines. Despite all this he STILL managed to somehow maintain that image, and while it waned, the Apprentice somehow convinced people again that he was a business genius when he was the farthest thing from it.

He was not in isolation, of course. The libertarian movement had been growing and the idea that the US did not need a politician, but a businessman, as a president and that it needs to be run like a business and not a country had been building momentum for decades before his entry into politics.

If that movement didn't exist Trump would still be a failed businessman and probably have been thrown in prison a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Musk is a sleazy salesman. That's all he is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Perfect company for Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

Bringing down a superpower is pretty big. Something to brag about I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Last year SpaceX received government subsidies totaling $10 million per day. Without government welfare he is worthless.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (18 children)

He just happened to get lucky and invest in 3 of the most influential technology companies of the past decade despite basically the entire planet telling him it won't be possible.

He just got lucky 🙄

This is a stupid fucking way to attack Elon. There are better ways to point out he's a drug addicted criminal.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (7 children)

And also lucky to have been born in the right family.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

People who defend him claim he's a super genius who invented electric cars and space shuttles straight out of his balls, so it does make sense to call out the fact that he himself didn't create any of these companies and he's not the one doing any of the development, all he has is money, all he does is shout and put his X on other people's things.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is what capitalism gets you. You don't get leaders who get where they are thanks to their hard work or that they're better at what they do than others, you get entitled shitheads who never work a day in their lives and get everything handed to them, with zero work ethics and zero knowledge of how to do anything.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

That's because xelon is a nothing, and has always been a nothing. Money does not make you something. All republicans/conservatives are just the uncool kids that will never be cool. They don't understand what "cool" actually is. And when they try to be "cool", it's just cringe, cringe, cringe!!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Can someone provide sources for the information? I'm not doubting it, just that relying solely on information from a meme without references is generally a bad idea

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

For PayPal he was actually fired, but still had a lot of shares. Musk was fired when the company he was CEO of (x.com), merged with Confinity. PayPal was a service of Confinity. Musk kept pushing his X concept, whilst the rest of the company wanted to go PayPal. Musk got pushed out over this and some other conflicts. Later PayPal made it big and the shares made Musk a bunch of money.

So for PayPal Musk had zero to do with it's success.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well with Tesla, that was a lawsuit. He was being sued and due to the outcome, board members became co-founders. Legally Musk is considered a co-founder of Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

And that’s exactly how newspapers should phrase it:

Musk, who won the right to be called a cofounder of Tesla in court, …

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

@Sir_Kevin He does innovate new, and highly toxic, forms of BS. Does that count? 🤔

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