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I tried playing Harvest Moon on the SNES today and having played Stardew Valley for hours, I thought I'd try and see how tolerable the original Harvest Moon was in comparison. I know and understand it is unfair because there's a 20 year gap between Harvest Moon and Stardew Valley, while also discrediting Harvest Moon's later entries since there's more than one.

Harvest Moon to me is a bit hard to revisit. Having to get used to only carrying two tools at the same time, your farm doesn't seem as big, you don't have a way to know that you're tired as readily, you just have to watch for the signs and the village you visit doesn't seem as characteristic. It's a basic farming sim, it has to start somewhere.

But Stardew Valley does so many things that it is easier to revisit.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

OK, maybe a slight twist, but Left 4 Dead absolutely sucks vs. Left 4 Dead 2. Want L4D? Fine. Play it inside L4D2 with better guns and zombies.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I have set up the original Fallout (fully modded and running through Fallout 1n2), but it's pretty hard to get into. Not because of the graphics, which are actually fine, but just because the mechanics are quite intricate and I think my ability to learn new gameplay mechanics is declining as I enter my mid-30s (I've only played Fallout starting with Fallout 3). I'm going to keep trying to get into it!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

As someone who played Fallout 2 as a teen it's not your age, the first 2 have a lot of little things that end up having a big effect, and they are difficult. They do not pull their punches and will happily smack you around.

I restarted Fallout 2 many times when I was first playing it trying to figure out a build I liked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

No worries bud, the mechanics for 1 and 2 has always been shit. People sucked it up and played anyway because the writing was so damn good. If you can't get into the game because the mechanics or controls are bad thats the games fault not yours.

I have been trying to replay both for years and everytime I give up after a few hours because the experience is just painful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

The classic Fallouts do have some quirks, but I hope you get through them and can get into it. They are absolutely amazing games, well worth your time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Super Mario Bros 3 after playing the all stars version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Probably nostalgia, but I prefer the original graphics...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Do the original version of Doom and Doom 2 count? The relatively recent, re-released duology is objectively superior. Also, OpenRCT2 makes classic RCT and RCT2 feel incomplete at best, and outright horrible to play at worst.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

re-released duology is objectively superior

do you mean the "doom 1 + doom 2" on steam? because if so, oh boy are you gonna love gzdoom
https://zdoom.org/downloads

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is pretty obscure, but the Game Boy Advance remake of Mario Bros. (Not Super Mario Bros.) is more fun than the original.

You can run, for one thing, and the controls are more responsive in general.

It’s one of the games on Super Mario Advance, and one of the main reasons I originally wanted a GBA when it came out! I had the original Mario Bros. for the NES and thought it would be fun to have a portable version. I was right.

They did a great job updating the game!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah the controls in the OG Mario Bros (and even the OG Super Mario Bros, to a bit of a lesser extent) are very clunky compared to modern entries. I’d say SMB3 holds up well though.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Mount and Blade. Warband is just the better version all around. It works in reverse too cause Warband is better than Bannerlord.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I was going to comment harvest moon after reading the title!

A lot of the older games for me. They're just a lot harder. Like maybe they expect you to be willing to replay an area or a level over and over, getting a little farther each time until you beat it and I just don't have the stamina for that anymore, or the time.

Newer games baby you, they increase the difficultly perfectly along side your ability growth. They might even make a level easier if you've failed twice. Older games don't care if you're having fun as much. There was less competition (fewer game choices) and more of a "gamers like this. If you don't like it, you're not a gamer" attitude, and now games want to attract everyone.

I have become such a baby about games. I want to have fun the whole time! I can't handle failing over and over. I'd rather just read a book.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I can't even leave the starting room of the original System Shock. So glad the remake updated the controls.

I did manage to finish System Shock 2, but the "puzzles" are just RNG, so I'm hoping the remaster changes that and maybe even fixes the ending.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just played the original System Shock and System Shock 2. Incredible games.

I saw the trailer for the remake for the first one and wanted one last memory before I get my mind blown.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Zork, or any of the old text bases adventure games.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

007 games. But the N64 soundtrack was great.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I recently finished playing Breath of the Wild and declared it as one of my favorite games ever played. I just started Tears of the Kingdom, and it feels like I may not go back to BOTW, which is crazy that I could consider it one the best experiences ever, and also feel like I may never play it again so shortly after beating it. TotK seems to have everything in BotW and more, with quality of life changes on top of it all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Totk is.. more of an expansion/dlc than a sequel. Even the intro has near identical beats. The map is literally re used.

Fun game still.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Starcraft! I really think Starcraft Brood War is a better, more balanced game. The quality of life changes in Starcraft 2 make it so hard to go back to playing Brood War. I don't know if I can adjust back to only selecting a lot amount of units or needing to click on each building to build stuff or not having smart-casting and good pathing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Halo MCC version over the original.

I saw Halo running on a classic Xbox and tried to play with the clunky Xbox controller. Couldn't do it. Everything looked so low res and blurry.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

A lot of strategy games fit this bill to me. Mainly the Paradox ones like Europa Universalis or Crusader Kings. I'd much rather play the most recent version (EU4 and CK3). However, it's interesting that I feel the exact opposite about the Total War and Civilization Series, where I'll prefer the original Rome Total War and Shogun 2 Total War over many of the more-recent games, as well as Civ V over VI and VII (though I haven't played VII yet, to be fair).

The Football Manager series also comes to mind. There's little tweaks and improvements each year (this year being an exception where they are redesigning the entire engine) so I prefer playing the most recent one (even if I still boot up a few of the older games for some nostalgia every now and then).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dark Souls 1. Especially on PC it's almost unplayable due to bad porting and DS3 and Elden Ring have refined the formula so much, it's insane. The remaster is ok though, so I don't know if that counts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The original is rough yes, but I don't know anyone that would play it over the Remaster these days. And the remaster is fine as far as playability goes. However, it's still a candidate for this thread simply because the DS1 bosses will feel very anticlimactic for anyone who has played DS3/ER/Bloodborne/Sekiro.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I grew up playing King's Quest 5, 6, and 7. I was curious about the earlier ones and eventually found them on an abandonware site a while back and they didn't age very well. Turns out 5 was the first one that was all point and click based. Prior to that, they were text based and you needed to know the exact wording or alternatives that they had thought of or you couldn't do anything. I'm sure they were great games for their time but I just couldn't get into them.

More recently, I bought the collection on steam. I'm not sure how well someone who has never played them before would enjoy them, but I found 5 and 6 still stood up, despite being like 30 years old. Though it might also help that I could still remember a bunch of the puzzles, as they could be pretty unforgiving of mistakes. Save often because you could die at any moment, and hope you don't miss picking up an item you'll need later on or you might get eaten by a yeti or something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Old Sierra games do suck as actual games. But the satisfaction of beating them is unrivaled, I'd put them above any Souls like.

They played best when you had other people to commiserate with. Hot seat multi-player getting more and more frustrated until someone realized you have to walk completely around the police car to check it before driving... 🤬

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I cut my teeth on Space Quest 1 and Kings Quest 3. Not only was the very spefic vocabulary a pain but so many solutions were a dead end trap.

I remember in Space Quest if you typed use [item] it would give you a message about not being a simple 2 word game and tell you to say use [item] on [thing]. It required that format.

Then halfway through the game the solution to one puzzle is use glass. Not use glass on laser. I has figured out the puzzle right away but it took me days to get the right wording.

Those games have not aged well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

God, I still remember struggling for hours, days because I didn't specifically type "Get out from boat", in Kings Quest II.

You'd think "Get out of boat" would suffice, but nooooo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Check out The Crimson Diamond for a modern indie game that uses the keyword thing like in early King's Quest, but it actually works well. The graphics are pretty endearing too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I can't see myself going back to the original Half-Life after playing Black Mesa. The changes to Xen alone are massive improvements.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Just started a playthrough of Black Mesa the other week after having played HL1 like fuck idk, 18 years ago? Barely remember it, but going through the levels I'm like "Oh yeah I remember this part, with the mine cart/train thingies"

Looked at screenshots of HL1 the other day and laughed that I will never play it ever again

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Call of Duty: World At War Zombies

Every map in WaW zombies has been re-released at least twice. WaW zombies is cool because of how simple and barebones it is, but holy fucking hell that game was not coded for any sort of melee combat. The zombie bodies are so damn large, according to their hit boxes. Try to run past them but brush up against their pinky? Guess you’re done. Also for some reason the co-op splitscreen is not split vertically, and it’s not split horizontally, each of the two players just gets a quarter of the screen in a tiny box. Who knows why.

I love it to death but it’s real hard to go back to it.

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