All we need to do is find a woman bigger, faster, and stronger than him, and then he's officially a woman by his own legislation.

Counterpoint: Ben Shapiro

I wonder if you can legally change genders with this. If you're a woman who's bigger, stronger, and faster than the average male in Nebraska, then you satisfy this biological condition set forth in law.

The nazis are back, Russia's trying its best to cause WW3, our rights are dropping like flies, oligarchs have become cartoonishly overt in fucking the rest of us cuz they know we'll just bend over and take it, and we're literally cooking our planet with cow farts and dinosaur juice to the point that its ability to support life is rapidly approaching a hard stop.

............and the thing we're putting our energy into is the dangly bits in our pants.

So if a body builder woman beats him up in one-on-one combat, he'll have to be redefined as a women? Where's the Celebrity Death Match reboot?

Out of all of the problems we have, this joker decided this made up one was actually worth his energy and effort. What a fucking stupid time to be alive.

This is anti-twink legislation, Ben Shapiro can't live up to this.

So in Nebraska a two men with a measurable difference in size and strength in a relationship are actually heterosexual?

That guy definitely watches trans porn daily.

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Apparently, from what I'm reading, this will also potentially cause women's shelters to lose federal funding. They aren't legally allowed to discriminate against trans-women, which means they'll be disqualified for getting funding.

@[email protected] wrote in here 6h ago :

There’s no legal reason to define the genders, no ongoing court drama in Nebraska that hinges on this definition, nothing legally will ever be decided because of it. It’s just one idiot shouting out to a bunch of other idiots that he doesn’t like it when people who were born with one set of genitals want to have a different set of genitals.

What this will accomplish is added brain drain, an issue Nebraska sorely needs a remedy to, it will cost millions in court cases that will now be filed against the state and the governor, and it will cost women’s centers in Nebraska Federal money. All while doing absolutely nothing worthwhile for the state of Nebraska.

It’s Jim Pillen saying he wants a fight with a minority group. And it’s an idiotic call to arms at that.

N.B. : This excellent comment was unfortunately part of a thread which was deleted by the mod. I read the other comments in this post and, compared to the above, they're mostly not worth one cent.

yeah cuz im such a big scary guy in my striped thigh highs, weighing in at 120 pounds

i can run away in a flash though :3

Headline is clickbait. The executive order does not define men as "bigger, stronger, and faster," and the headline contains zero information about how the executive order actually does define "sex". This shit really gets under my skin. Misinformation like this makes it more difficult to educate people about what is wrong with the system, why it needs to be changed, and the actions necessary to change it. It greatly reduces a person's ability to advocate for a cause effectively.

The bigger, stronger, faster part is in the section of the order called the preamble, not part of the definition. The preamble is all the WHEREAS shit you see at the beginning of bills and explains the rationale for the bill, or executive order as is the case here.

A preamble may be inserted between the title and the enacting clause of a bill for multiple reasons: to explain the state of affairs that caused the bill to be introduced; to make clear the purpose of the bill; as a sales pitch to improve the chances of enactment; or to serve some other purpose of the sponsor. A preamble is not a part of the enacted bill. [source - pdf warning]

In this instance, the preamble is grandstanding, and the article even refers to it as such:

Nebraska governor Jim Pillen, a Republican not noted as a women's rights supporter, yesterday issued an executive order "defining" males and females and the attributes thereof. The anti-transgender political grandstanding offers fusty explanations of the sexes–men are "bigger, stronger and faster" on average–in pursuit of Rowling-esque calls for sexual segregation (and even echoing her ostensibly feminist rationales) and not a lot else.

Here's the preamble, which doesn't mean shit:

WHEREAS, males and females possess unique and immutable biological differences that manifest prior to birth and increase as they age and experience puberty;
WHEREAS, biological differences between the sexes mean that males are, on average, bigger, stronger, and faster than females;
WHEREAS, women have achieved inspirational and significant accomplishments in education, athletics, and employment;
WHEREAS, biological differences between the sexes are enduring and may, in some circumstances, warrant the creation of separate social, educational, athletic, or other spaces in order to ensure safety and/or to allow members of each sex to succeed and thrive; and
WHEREAS, inconsistencies in court rulings and policy initiatives with respect to the definitions of “sex,” “male,” “female,” “man,” and “woman” have led to endangerment of single-sex spaces and resources, thereby necessitating clarification of certain terms.

This is the part that contains information about defining someone's "sex", and is actually enacted:

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Jim Pillen, Governor of the State of Nebraska, under and pursuant to the authority vested in the Governor by the Constitution and the laws of the State of Nebraska, do hereby order and direct the following:

1. In the promulgation of administrative rules, enforcement of administrative decisions, and the adjudication of disputes by administrative agencies, boards, and commissions, all state agencies, boards, and commissions when using the following terms shall, to the fullest extent permitted by law, define them as follows:
   a. a person's “sex” is defined as his or her biological sex (either male or female) at birth;
   b. a “female” is an individual whose biological reproductive system is developed to produce ova; a “male” is an individual whose biological reproductive system is developed to fertilize the ova of a female;
   a. [sic] “woman” and “girl” refer to human females, and the terms “man” and “boy” refer to human males;
   b. [sic] the word “mother” is defined as a parent of the female sex and “father” is defined as a parent of the male sex;
2. There are legitimate reasons to distinguish between the sexes with respect to athletics, prisons or other detention facilities, domestic violence shelters, rape crisis centers, locker rooms, restrooms, and other areas where biology, safety, and/or privacy are implicated;
3. Any public school or school district and any state agency, department, or office that collects vital statistics for the purpose of complying with antidiscrimination laws or for the purpose. of gathering accurate public health, crime, economic, or other data shall identify each individual who is part of the collected data set as either male or female at birth.
   This Executive Order shall become effective immediately and shall expire upon the effective date of state law governing participation of biological males in female athletics and prescribing environments where single-sex dedicated services and/or facilities should be provided.
   IN WITNESS THEREOF, I hereunto set my hand and cause the Seal of the State of Nebraska to be affixed this 30^th^ day of August, 2023.

I guess intersex people also don't exist good job loser governor

Me who can’t do a single pull-up: I guess I’m a woman now?

So whenever he sees a giant Dutch girl that would destroy his noodle arms in arm westling he's now officially a tiny little girl.

After that he signed an order that declares his penis to be totally average or a little bigger than average, and that it's totally normal for it to be that color & shape and have a bend in it.

Serena Williams or Brittney Greiner or Simone Biles could kick my fat ass three ways from Sunday. I'm definitely not bigger than Brittney, and there's no way I'm stronger or faster than any of them.

So if there is a woman bigger than him, does he lose his manhood?

Theres a lot of obvious layers of stupidity here, i wanna point out the ludicrousness of thinking you can define legislative legal terms through executive order.

How could this idea ever go wrong?

The amount of time republicans waste fixing nothing is staggering. It’s like they exist to run out the clock.

There is a missing "on average" in the title of this headline, which completely negates the oniony part of the sentence.

This bill did not say that men were exclusively bigger, stronger, and faster, or that women weren't. It just said that, on average, they are, which is true.

Why that is in an executive order, honestly, there is no good reason for it, but the principle is still the same: lying by omission is still lying, especially in a culture where people only read headlines.

My 6ft tall great grandmother would have scrubbed the toilet with that shrimp.