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[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

I’m sorry but I have a neuroscience degree and I think this is a fart sniffing post. The broader point is real though

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago (11 children)

I'll take things that never happened for 500 Alex

This reads like a shower argument I have when alone

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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Joe Rogan is a caveman, but I hate this mentality.

I've had a ton of horrible experiences with doctors. Misdiagnosis, given bad medication, bad medical advice, etc. A common trait all of them had extreme arrogance. They all thought they had all the answers, and that modern medicine was infallible.

If you had an issue they couldn't put a clear label on fairly quick or weren't responding to treatment in a textbook way, then that was somehow your fault. Either you were lying, or exaggerating, or it was all just in your head.

I'm not alone in this experience. Basically every American with any sort of complex health issues has had a bad experience at the hands of someone who claims to be an expert. That's on top of the medical establishment letting bad medicine go on for years, because they are extremely reluctant to admit they don't have all the answers.

Obviously, none of that makes Joe Rogan any sort of intellectual or trusted authority on anything except bro science. How you can't expect people to have unflinching trust in doctors when doctors let people down so often.

[–] MiniMoose4Free@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Amen friend, I lost my mother this year because of a group of doctors that didn't want to even consider the fact they might not know what they're talking about.

She had pneumonia for 4 months. It wouldn't go away because these doctors would treat her for 3 days. Then sent her on her way, convinced they cured her when they didn't. She would be back in the hospital less than a week later. The stress of it all eventually made her go into cardiac arrest multiple times. On her certificate, it lists the pneumonia and the heart as cause of death.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think on this particular example, the focus was less on the medical doctor aspect and more on the PhD. The woman has achieved the pinnacle of institutional knowledge in her field by fostering her intellect while dog breath across the table talks down to her about muscly podcast man who told everyone to take horse dewormer for COVID.

I agree using "doctor" as an indicator of intellect can fall short, I think that is tangential to the point her husband was making. Also, good husband stepping up to bat when the coworker starts mansplaining to his wife...

[–] MiniMoose4Free@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Joe rogan is pure shit, but the pinnacle on knowledge in one specific field does not mean the pinnacle knowledge in everything else.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 13 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Doctors sadly are drilled to produce results in an industrial manner. Strange edge cases are relegated to research, but if a doctor has to work off many patients, a patient who needs thought or patience is just irritating.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

Sounds like we need to rethink how we educate doctors - considering we need more.

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[–] TheGoddessAnoia@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Um... if you look at the post again, you will find that the doctor in question is a PhD, admittedly in neuroscience, which does produce results used by medical doctors. But there is no indication the woman in question has ever, or will ever, practise medicine in a clinical setting. For that matter, there is only the inference from the mention of a US podcast that she is even American, mmm?

But, then, I infer from your userrname that you are male, and from your post that you are American. So I am not, at this point in history, terribly surprised if you have jumped to a wrong conclusion about the actual content of a woman's doctorate.

Signed, another woman with a doctorate that has nothing whatsoever to do with practising medicine in the USA, although you'd never know it from the number of Americans who immediately tell me their symptoms upon introduction. (Ah, yes! I think Napoleon died of something similar on Ste. Helena. Or possibly he was poisoned. But then French history is not my field, either.)

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You're right. At least doctors have actual experience in the field. There are legions of academics who have never actually attempted to apply any of their knowledge to any sort of real life situation, have an extremely limited ability to function in the real world, and somehow are even more arrogant than medical doctors by an order of magnitude.

Case and point, this comment. The natural conclusion of anyone without an extreme superiority complex is that I just mildly misread the OC because, like the vast majority of people, I spent like 10s glancing at this post before commenting

Meanwhile you have your head so far up your ass that you immediately launch into an incredibly pretentious rant that somehow manages to stretch a three sentence point into three paragraphs, each of which is somehow more insufferable than the last.

Everything about you gives off the energy of someone who thinks they are better than everyone else because they can quote Foucault at will, and thinks the reason why they can't seem to make connections outside of their field is because people are too intimidated by an "intellectual".

[–] TheGoddessAnoia@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago

Ooooo. You know, that would have been painful, had it not been so entirely off base. Thanks for the laugh....

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I gave up on getting tested for ADHD. They would not even run the tests! I don't really care if I have it, I just want to be sure, so I know what to do about whatever is wrong with me.

[–] dman87@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

I'm sorry to hear that! My PCP referred me to testing based on a very short conversation and ultimately just because I wanted to be tested and know. I hope you can find a better doctor!

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (11 children)

While hilarious...that's what's breeding the rise of the shit show of anti-science. We can't just call morons morons anymore. They go back to truth social, find all the other morons and pretend like they know better.

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[–] Lucky13@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Try being a woman and talking to a mechanic or anybody working at an auto parts store.

[–] snapoff@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or try being a woman working at an autoparts store

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[–] Morph9@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pride of Ignorance. Its something we should bully out of people. Nobody should be so proud to be so dumb. Its fine to be dumb, but nobody should revel in it.

[–] Blankgeorge@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago

Good for hubby.

[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

I schooled another man about my wife's competence. A doctor's a doctor! - title of this as a moderately upvoted repost on reddit with mostly positive, supportive comments

Thank you to all the good men who defend their wives like DH did for me! We love you! - title of a less upvoted and commented on reddit repost the next day

OP: My husband's nazi coworker was blatantly sexist to me at a company dinner - "where do you live dumb cunt imma swat your house," "men are people too, not everything is nazis, feminist bitch" brigade, "why are you dividing the movement for equality" Civilized Discussion and Debate, redditcares messages in her inbox

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 17 hours ago

In a normal society, there would be high pressure against this kind of behavior, and people would need to be tested at least once a year to stay educated. You don't really have free will if you can't make rational choices.

There is nothing admirable about letting a fascist rant about hate and nonsense, while the ape of a host goes “never thought of it that way, interesting” while legitimizing the nonsense

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Joe Rogan, Shapiro, and j Peterson is what you called pseudo-intellectuals

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[–] pega_sus@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Trust me, we don't.

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