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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We don't live in a Meritocracy, not even close.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

True meritocracy had never been implemented in any human society larger than a small village.

It had been partially implemented in several places/times

What we have today is a partially implemented one in middle management, technocrats and engineers.

Where out of touch upper management and owners are the rule. But if I look at any successful company I will find the tech and middle management running it day to day

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We're so close to just having the workers run their own affairs, the table is set we just have to make everyone realize the actual owners are useless and do nothing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And more than just realizing that, we need to find a realistic path to take that power away from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

And more than that not have a different group of upper class later. As had happened always.

I’d rather not go through the churn if no real difference a few years later

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

For those wondering why it did fly that way, it was a whole thing on Twitter: weather, fly zones, mostly.

https://www.thepoke.com/2025/02/26/elon-musk-said-planes-fly-straight-line-owned-into-economy-class/

Obviously the permanent main character on Twitter popped up to assert that planes must go straight despite flying in a private jet constantly that doesn't do that, and after a few hours the original guy said he asked the pilot when they landed (20 min ahead of schedule) and the pilot told him it was to avoid turbulence, which is likely what they say when a full answer seems like it'll just go over folks heads.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

There’s also the Great Circle flight paths. Essentially, because the earth is round, it’s actually a shorter distance to fly in an “arc” (when looking at a flat map). In the below picture, the upper curved line is actually shorter than the lower straight line:

Here’s another image which demonstrates why the curved line looks longer on a flat map:

And because of how map projections work, this applies to virtually any flight path that isn’t directly north/south… Just like the one in OP’s photo.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago) (2 children)

The path in the post has nothing to do with the great circle. The shortest path is very similar to how it appears on the Mercator projection (actually slightly bent in the other direction) because SF and Houston are fairly close and in a position where Mercator distortions are less pronounced.

Also, a line is the shortest path when the 2 points are both on the Equator (where the projection distortion is zero)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

Worth pointing out too, that the air isn't "flat" either, you can have headwinds, tailwinds, and turbulence that will affect the shortest and most economical path.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

It’s also good to mention that the projection shown in the tweet wasn’t Mercator either, it was a globe rendered via Apple Maps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There's also the fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid and great circles are the shortest distance between two points on that shape. (Though this may not apply for short flights like this.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

And it doesn't apply because it would be curved upwards

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

America's just fat. Big ol' lump sticking out of the disc. The turtle under us is getting arthritis.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because the chemtrails turned the flight paths gay

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

no, this is SF to LA. It was the estrogen in the water that turned the flight path gay.

edit: we may also have local aviation laws that prevent straight flight paths. I'm not familiar with california aviation laws.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Musk's DOGE let data leak, erased data from a goverment db by misstake, fired important figure working with nuke programs, Ebola and more in front of the whole fucking world.

Can you imagine a bigger fuck up?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

For now I assume that the whole thing is working out well for Mr. Musk. By now he has probably weakened the specific agencies that were a thorn in his side sufficiently he'll earn back the few hundred million it cost him to buy that position.

So he's not an idiot, but he's a problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, the person who hired Musk

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

And the 77 million people who voted for that person despite knowing exactly who he was.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Ah, but he didn't hire him, he just made him an advisor. Hiring him would required oversight that would have given others a chance to give a firm "Fuck No".

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You can be the dumbest mother fucker the Earth has ever produced and you will still easily be able get a business degree from any greasy college of your choice.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's wild to me that consumting has become such a massive industry in the last 20 years. It's all just a bunch of kids freah out of college with zero experience in anything practical telling you to cut costs, raises prices, and do light crime. Why do companies pay millions when the CEO's dumbass son could have just told them the same thing?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

CYA and possibly liability reasons. "I didn't make the bad decision, I was following the advice of the consultants."

But also there are times you actually do need advice from experts. Not all consultants are bad. But yeah, a lot of it is just CYA stuff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"Consumpting" is an impressively opaque typo, for being one letter off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Sunday morning typing is hard after clubbing all night. not too bad for seeing double

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 hours ago

They neither teach nor require smart at management schools.

[–] [email protected] 233 points 14 hours ago (33 children)

Y'all, this has nothing to do with the curvature of the Earth. There are mountains and multiple no-fly zones that would be crossed if they flew in a straight line.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

It's still presented in an anti-intellectual "just asking questions" format though.

Further we are all just internet jabronis. It isn't literally our job to know this stuff. Knowing this stuff is kind of literally this guys job. Knowing the things you just described is kind of the whole "logistics" thing.

Whatever the reasons for the path are, we accept that qualified people know what they are doing. In asking this question, he is showing how unqualified he is.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

I worked for almost 40 years at a company that made rocket engines. For the first couple decades (and all the time prior to my starting there), the head of the company was someone who came up through the ranks. They were very knowledgeable about rocket engines, or at least very knowledgeable at the aspect that they worked on (there are a lot of specialties involved), and somewhat knowledgeable about the others.

But as the company traded hands, we ended up with CEOs or GMs that knew nothing about rockets and instead were just focused on the business aspects of it. Some of them were smart people, but they wouldn't have cared if the company was making spoons or skateboards. From my vantage point, the company really went downhill when that happened, but I don't think it's uncommon these days.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this guy knows nothing about logistics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but this kind of sounds like a technofascist trial balloon to push for the privatization of the US military. The implication being

Why can't our nation's air industry not simply buy the right to fly through no-fly zones? This is deep state oppression curtailing YOUR freedoms to go where-ever you please. If we just privatize military research and production it will be more productive (SpaceX is better than NASA) and American (a big state is communist; those military officers that don't want to invade Canada are traitors), and people can fly over SpaceX's latest acquisition Area 51X if they buy the rights.

Project 2025 was not written by Trump even if he is the executor/scapegoat. Smart people exist and work for the politicians, shareholders and lobbyists that shape current US policy. And trial balloons don't need to be cleverly worked out, in the era of Trump you can just throw stuff at the wall, see what sticks, and pay private media to not make a story out of the rest. There's a good chance this will come to nothing, but why wouldn't a petty technocrat try to ingratiate himself to the new technofascist regime by offering a win-win.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago

Thank you for articulating why exactly I felt this way about the post. I couldn't quite get to that point myself.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

He should ask Luigi for a detailed description of fly-zones, fuel consumption vs altitude and terrain, and air traffic (timing) to a lesser extent.

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