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[–] [email protected] 7 points 55 minutes ago (4 children)

I'll say it once, I'll say it forever: Windows has better backward compatibility, period. Even compared to linux. Rebuilding an old open source linux app to work on a modern distro can be done, but it's a process that could take hours or days. And if you don't have the source code you're shit out of luck. Have fun getting that binary built against a 1 year old version of glibc to work. This, incidentally is what things like flatpak, docker and ubuntu's nonsense competitor to both (of which our hatred is entirely rational no really stop laughing) are trying to solve.

Meanwhile microsoft office still handles leap years wrong because it might break backwards compatibility with old documents. Binaries built for windows xp will usually just work on windows 11. Packages built for ubuntu 22.0 often won't run on ubuntu 23.0. You never notice this because linux are a culture of recompilers. Rebuilding every last package once a month is just how some distros roll. But that's not backwards compatibility, that's ongoing maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 minutes ago

Windows 11 isn't even backwards-compatible with 7-year-old CPUs! Run a 32-bit or 16-bit (dos) exe on Win11/x64? Think again. Windows drivers are always a pain in the butt. Load up an old driver for your favorite peripheral? Probably won't work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

I heard this concept somewhere once of "Technical Debt" wherein a thing gets made and it works really well but then it gets updated or new features are added and something breaks, but rather than tear the whole thing apart to fix the issue, a patch or bandaid gets slapped on to ship the thing. Then the next update comes along and this time it takes two bandaids, one to 'fix' the new problem and one to keep the old bandaid on. The next update takes three bandaids, then four . . . and so on. The accumulation of all these bandaids is known as the Technical Debt, and it must always be repaid, somehow, someday.

Microsoft stubbornly refuses to repay their technical debt at all costs, Apple is terrified of letting anyone ever get even a glimpse of their mountain of technical debt, and Linux bathes in a weird soup of refusing to let technical debt even happen and dispensing bandaids so fast they make the RedCross look like a joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Backwards compatibility, but at what cost?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

The vast majority of software run on Windows these days runs in a web browser. The legacy shit in windows doesn't impact most software engineers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

Or its an electron app.

One good thing (probably the only good thing) about electron is it makes it easy to port an app to linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

But is that desirable? I'd rather break things in favor of something better, and provide a way to make the old thing run, than be stuck with ancient baggage

Also, while that's true for software, compatibility for old hardware is horrible under Windows

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"I can't delete bloatware" - all 3 of them

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I would say you can on do that on Windows and Android, but it is not intended by the OS and you have to work around certain measures. Linux just lets you do everything, even if it is a really bad idea

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

you could do that on windows. no longer.

linux is fine, just don't sudo under the influence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

All of them are pushing generative AI that many users don't want and you have to manually opt out on Windows and Mac.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

And you'll often just be opted back in the next time there's an update.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

nah windows will not let you disable things like windows defender and telemetry, even if you have windows enterprise edition. It might be possible to delete it some of the bloatware, but it'll just reinstall itself in an update.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Tbf not letting the average windows user turn off windows defender is a good idea

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