Lol, how is it even possible to upvote banned content? I mean, is it not deleted if banned?
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Basically declaring that they don't allow free speech.
"Hey, you have been liking things we disagree with and we need an echo chamber here, align with us or fuck off. Sincerely, the money hungry bitches of the internet! Also heil daddy musk!"
Of course they don’t. They banned me 3 years ago for saying that if you have the chance, you should always punch a Nazi.
They permabanned two of my accounts during the election last year, just because I said I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot. She’s a warmonger who’s called for violence against millions of innocent people. Not gonna clutch my pearls when anyone (even Trump) threatens her.
Excuse me? If someone says they want a genocide you have to wait until they take over, only then are you allowed to support violence.
I'm against violence, I think that reasonable and even somewhat unreasonable people should be talked with. But if someone says "fuck you I will kill you" you should have the right to punch them, it is the same as self defence, because next time they will kill you.
I know. The two reactions when I tell people about that are usually either rage or amusement. I’m here now, so fuck Reddit.
Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.
It's a privately owned platform. You never have an assurance of free speech on any of those, and on Reddit, the rot set in years ago.
There is a big jump from "we are a private company and we have internal rules" to "we are a private company and our internal rules that directly go against human rights"
Based on what I read in the posted article, everyone is making a big leap here. Of course I expect you all to be right in the end based on Reddit being a shitshow, but we don’t know what the content they are referring to is exactly.
For all we know, they are only referring to stuff like human trafficking or child porn. The statement is vague.
To be clear, they're talking about banning right wing people. Reddit is one of the most liberal platforms you will find.
You can't even talk economics on Reddit without being downvoted to fuck, or banned.
I am a centrist, and I routinely had posts removed and got banned from communities for saying things from actual textbooks taught currently in universities.
No one is attacking the free speech of the left unless it's radical and advocating for physical harm.
I once got banned for "vote brigading" on Reddit because I upvoted a crosspost that was deleted later, so this comes as no surprise. They have been monitoring upvotes and downvotes since forever.
Wtf is “vote brigading”?
When one community goes in mass to affect the votes in another. E.g someone is doing a poll/vote intended to be private or limited to a certain group/community, and you link that to from somewhere else with the hope, or sometimes direct instructions to go vote on it in a certain way.
That's why reddit has cross-posts and the np (no participation, disables voting in the linked content) subdomain that try to keep the votes separated.
When one community goes in mass
Slightly off-topic, but it’s en masse, not “in mass”
I don’t think i ever came across cross posted content where up/down voting was not allowed 🤔
If you cross-post, that sub gets it's own up/downvote count. You would have to open the link and go to the original post to see and affect them, so it already discourages brigading.
NP is when I link you directly to somewhere, e.g https://np.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1j4scuu/barbie_doll/ won't have voting even if you are logged in, not on the post or the comments.
Yeah what the heck is that?
Agreeing with something the owners don't like.
Well that's just screwed up.
I got perma banned after i joined NAFO as a mod 2 bannes for petty reasons and then the third and final ban. Always waited for the other bans to time out
Nobody elected the mods or the admins. And the management has shown itself to be, at least, MAGA-adjacent.
“reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies”
There, FTFY
after what they saw with luigi, and trying to suppress all news about it
They are desperay obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.
They ban for literally anything probably because their Reddit moderation is handled by AI. The simple fact that many reports = certain ban regardless of behavior is reason enough not to be in that cesspool
their Reddit moderation is handled by AI
They also have a number of fascist mods who abuse their authority to arbitrarily ban anyone saying something they don't like.
Oh for sure! I got banned for “inciting violence” when I called desantis “a wanna be fascist in fake cowboy boots” and it got spam reported by conservative snowflakes. There is literally no staying unbanned on Reddit if you have any form of moral compass or social awareness
Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.
One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.
Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.
So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.
Vegan cat food? What the frak, poor cats.
its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.
It's already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.
Dry food is the worst between their diabetes risk and CKD risk.
Its decentalised nature doesn't get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.
Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to not automatically have every comment flagged.
People aren't stuck to the policies of instances they don't agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.
at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself. Though if majority of some community decides to just stick with some awful group, its quite bad for the minority that doesnt like the awfullness. But at least that is problem of our own making instead of what something some rich asshole decided and thus we can solve it ourselves too if we really want to. There is no way to unshittify reddit ever.
It's way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it's trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.
Which I don't have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It's better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it's truly useless, then nobody would use it
Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it's important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.
I feel like there's a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.
A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.
Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.
So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.
There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.
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Same shit happens here and you know if. Anyone with any user count is heavily moderating violence.
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