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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh no, don't make the entire corrupt insurance industry fear for their lives... that would be horrible...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Thoughts and prayers to the bullets that were wasted

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

I mean, what was the CEO wearing? Maybe they should think more about their own safety... there's common sense precautions that can be taken, like not being the CEO of an American for-profit healthcare company.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

SAIF is a state-chartered not-for-profit and the largest workers’ compensation agency in Oregon. Terhune has been CEO of SAIF since 2021, when his base salary was $500,000. While his exact salary is not reported, he has he regularly received raises and “incentive payments” of 35-40%, according to SAIF’s annual reports. In 2024, according to calculations from the 2021 base salary, Terhune’s salary was around $562,323 and his bonus amounted to something like $216,000.

Despite being a "not for profit," it sure seems like the CEO made a lot of profit for themself.

The median salary for full-time workers in Oregon is $61,671.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

SAIF's nonprofit status has no bearing on how they pay out. They still move to close claims as quickly as possible, they still use shill doctors who aren't good enough to practice as "independent" medical examiners to deny claims and they still sell people's claims to managed care organizations that are for-profit and make more money by denying care. Getting injured on the job and needing care as a result in Oregon is a bad time.

SAIF exists because Oregon law says it exists, and like many entities that exist entirely because of legislation it does the bare minimum of what the law says it does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I had a thought recently that could maybe make health insurance a little more fair here in the US. If we required the people who approve or deny claims at health insurance agencies to carry malpractice insurance and allowed them to be sued for medical malpractice when their claim denial led to adverse health outcomes, we could (maybe) make them think twice about denying claims.

Obviously trying to help people isn't a functional incentive for them, but maybe not getting sued would work.

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[–] [email protected] 253 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, kinda slow around here. Wishing for warmer weather, and Spring. I did plant some cilantro and broccoli in cold frames, just to keep myself amused. Anything fun up in your neighborhood?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago

Well, I’m in Oregon, so yes! See headline for details.

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[–] [email protected] 217 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Police just released more footage of the alleged perpetrator.

[–] potoo22 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

So like a human-sized, human-shaped Bigfoot

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I can't believe that in 2025 people still believe in Bigfoot. That is so obviously just a Yeti in a gorilla suit.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Funny how they stop being "stray" bullets when they enter the homes of the rich.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

These were definitely stray bullets - they missed.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My thoughts and prayers are with the shooter in this difficult time

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The article mentioned that SAIF is a non profit health insurance company where the executives are reasonably paid and don't have massive security teams

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Receiving approximately a million dollars a year is not reasonable at a non-profit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How else can you pay people who are working at a non profit? Thank you's dont pay bills, but neither taking home half a million in the name of non-profit.

How much of that money goes to those executives and their "vacations" aka fundraising?

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Yeah, I've got some tips..

One, don't be a moron and send threatening emails before the job is done, that just puts people on alert and makes it more likely you get caught, especially considering traceability of email.

Two, don't fire blindly into a house you colossal moron, you can probably find a hiding spot good enough to wait until your target comes outside so you can get a clear shot.

Three, don't pull out the gun until you've got a confirmed target, and don't pull the trigger unless you're goddamn sure you got a killing shot, on the right target. Remember one of the things everyone likes about Luigi is that he was successful, and the other thing everyone likes is he didn't hurt anyone.

And four, if successful, once you get out of the immediate area, make sure not to be carrying around any goddamn incriminating evidence.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

furiously nodding and taking notes

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Luigi went from epic mastermind assassin to getting busted in a shitty fast food place with tons of incriminating evidence on his person. This bullshit needs a "epstein didn't kill himself" level meme

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean yeah, I’ve been saying he was a patsy since the day he was arrested. The dude manages to evade capture for an entire week, then gets caught with a written manifesto and the entire (easily disassembled and broken into pieces to be scattered where cops will never find the entire thing) ghost gun fully intact? The entire thing smells like “accidentally” disabled body cams and planted evidence.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Yeah, especially the ghost gun thing. The point of having that is to get rid of it when you're done and it can't be traced. Why go through the effort of getting a ghost gun if you're going to keep it? It doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

He also sprinkled some crack on top of his own head, so if the other stuff didnt get him, that crack is pretty damning.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If the end goal is to thin the herd, yeah, all those points matter.

If the goal is to terrify the CEOs into compliance or get them to take an early retirement package, threats and potshots will do fine.

Still should consider not using email, though.

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This is ABHORRENT! PLEASE only Shoot up Children in School INSTEAD of Rich People who Kill MILLIONS each year!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's just common sense. You fire into the home of a CEO working in a corrupt industry and you kill what, like five people? Maybe more?

Shooting up a school can have a way higher body count. It's a no-brainer.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

SAIF is a state run public corporation directed by a board appointed by the governor to operate a needed service for the benefit of the public. Its structure is similar to Amtrak. This is not a good target at all for anti for profit healthcare protest. (Even if the CEO is still paid too much)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tell me you've never had to deal with SAIF without telling me you've never had to deal with SAIF. Nonprofit insurance companies are still insurance companies and they aren't your friend under any circumstances. The going advice in Oregon is to hire a lawyer as soon as you can when dealing with SAIF because they are set up to filter out anyone who won't fight as hard as they can for the benefits they've paid into.

God help you if you have a mental health claim, SAIF will tear into your life as deeply as they can to find a reason to not pay for a therapist. Those bloodsuckers wanted ALL of my medical records going back to childhood when I wanted to talk to a counselor after I saw my coworker get badly injured on the job and they told me it would take at least 6 months to accept or deny my claim, even though Oregon law says they only have 60 days to do it. Lawyers told me that even though I was right, Oregon workers comp is tilted so far away from the worker that it wasn't worth their time, since they only get paid if they make SAIF accept a claim they had previously denied.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Their CEO makes something like 3/4 of a million $ /year... Hardly a civil servant's salary.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Could just be an accident right? Theres so many guns in the US and also the cops shoot and miss all the time.

UK cautions its travelers to the US to avoid walking around alone at night, and almost every country warns travelers that the US is a more violence-prone place and full of firearms than they are used to.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 days ago

It’s a shame the CEO was okay.

Homies gotta put in more time at the range before attempting to file a claim directly with the CEO.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Got tips? Reach Jessica Burbank on Signal at Kaburbank.77

I saw the guy! He was tall, wearing all green, with a hat with an "L" on it.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On an entirely unrelated note, check out this neat photo of some geodes:

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Reddit must Be censoring this was never on the front page and it should have been

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Got tips? Reach Jessica Burbank on Signal at Kaburbank.77

Why the fuck would I rat this man out?!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn’t say anything about good or accurate tips.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Oh no. Anyway...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I can't tell if they posted his income to say he is paid too much or too little... It's a weird thing to include, it didn't seem to fit the article at all.

Poor guy getting shot at and doesn't even make a million a year. Absolute tragedy.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

Well, the provided image of the suspect is going to be unhelpful to their investigation. I've seen less blurry shots of sasquatch. Why did they even bother releasing it?

Actually, now that I think on it maybe the shooter was some sort of cryptid...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

I'll have you know, Bigfeet as they're called are quite prevalent in Oregon and Northern California. I think they'll have more luck checking the forests than to ask any one of us for help.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This reminds me of the time someone shot at their own home

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Yep, these vibes:

(though in that case I could immediately tell you why I felt that way - in this case I'll admit I'm probably wrong, I can't justify the feeling)

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