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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was using Obsidian for a while, but actually switched when I found an awesome open source alternative, SilverBullet. The best comparison would be "Obsidian but for tinkerers/hackers".

Data is stored plaintext the same as obsidian - I actually just copy pasted my vault and it worked with exception of wikilinks being absolute paths only - and haven't looked back

The only downside is that its in early stages of development, but definitely usable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I jumped over to logseq. It takes some getting used to, but overall logseq is working fine overall.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like Silverbullet, but I could never get the file tree to work well. Any tips? Or is that not a feature you use?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

I have an "index" page where I link important pages and files. When I want to move them I rename them. If I do bulk data changes I SSH to my server and move the files in an old fashioned way. Personally I have not tried the filetree plugin, since I did not have the need for it - and probably the author of the project aswell.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Read whole page. Not sure what Obsidian even is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Its a staggeringly powerful app. Utilizing the markdown format and the Dataview plugin to create queries with metadata in your notes allows you to build INSANE knowledge management systems.

Example of some set ups here: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/14-example-vaults-from-around-the-web-kepano-nick-milo-the-sweet-setup-and-more/81788

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Note-taking app. Each note is a markdown file, so you can add formatting.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A very successful one with a large extension ecosystem to boot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What sort of extensions would one use for a note taking app? What sort of notes to you take with it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Dataview plugin is the most critical one. You can create queries with the metadata in your notes (YAML frontmatter and # hashtags). If that sounded like a bunch of non-sense I highly encourage you to dig into it, because I had no idea what those words meant either but it took my note taking to a new level. I think of my Obsidian vault as my second brain.

Below are some cool examples of vaults that you can click through. Also note that because the obsidian pages are in markdown format you can use the Jekyll engine to directly turn them into web pages without any coding (this is how GitHub Pages works)

https://forum.obsidian.md/t/14-example-vaults-from-around-the-web-kepano-nick-milo-the-sweet-setup-and-more/81788

If you know how to do a bit of coding (or use ChatGPT) you can incorporate APIs from other apps in your obsidian vault. Maybe you want to make a fancy home page that displays all your tasks from ToDoist, alongside the RSS feeds to your favorite podcasts and YouTube channels. Maybe you are tracking your habits and using DataView to compile all relevant instances of #habit tags into one calendar for a birds eye view.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

There's lots of types, think even stuff like d&d monster blocks, or custom date ones

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like trillium, but not open source Here is an enthusiastic person talking about the state of the art of one year ago for 20 minute. https://youtu.be/XRpHIa-2XCE

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's like Millium, but one more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Excellent news for myself. I've wanted to use this at work but it's hard enough to convince people to use it without asking for money.

[–] [email protected] 192 points 2 days ago (19 children)

I don't necessarily like a few takes in the comments here.

Vibes wise the Obsidian team seems to be great and they don't seem to have shown any reason why I should distrust them. I love FOSS but gifting others my work doesn't put food on my table, so in that sense they need to have a lucrative business model which they seem to have established.

I could use SyncThing, Git or other solutions to do synchronisation between my devices but I choose to buy their Sync offer, since I want to support them (they also have EU servers, which need to be GDPR compliant by law afaik).

The closest comparison I could make is NextCloud. NextCloud open sources their software, but they sell convenience. Sure, you could self host it, but paying them to do so for you may be more attractive. In comparison Obsidian is not really complicated to set up or maintain. It's literally just a MD-editor. So the only convenient thing to sell is synchronisation if you don't want to put a price tag on the software.

If they open source all their code, some tech wizard will implement a self hosted obsidian sync server with the same convenience as theirs in a day, and the company will lose their revenue stream.

We've all been burned by tech bros in one way or another, but I think it's ok for people to profit off of their IP. And they seem to be doing so with a positive vision. Feel free to let me eat my words if they ever go rogue, but that's my 2 cents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Someone develops logseq which is completely foss and like obsidian. Now I can choose to donate to FOSS or buy closed source. How do you decide?

We just need to establish paying for open source software more.

https://github.com/logseq/logseq/

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the rare, rational comment regarding Obsidian. Many people here seem to think releasing software as closed source automatically means you have something to hide; seemingly forgetting we live in a capitalist system in which you must constantly sell your services to survive. (I am saying this as someone who adores FOSS and donates to most of my homelab software on a regular basis).

I think a more productive way to look at is: is the closed source dev friendly (or at least non-hostile) to the open source community? In the case of Obsidian, they haven't done anything egregious, and regularly contribute to open source plugins. Furthermore, the notes are stored as markdown files. This gives the user strong resistance against potential enshittification, so even if they did go rogue you can just move to some other text editor lol. Granted, you would miss out on plugins but otherwise that's a good reason to keep your plugin usage light and plan your Obsidian vault accordingly.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It is a really good app. But was a pain in the ass to keep the archive in sync using multiple different platforms without paying for their sync addon in my experience. You can roll your own sync with stuff like Syncthing, cloud storage, etc. But the archive had a bad habit of seemingly finding ways to get out of sync.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just paid for the sync 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s $4 a month, I drink one beer less a month and I actually save 3€ 😀

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Take a look a SyncThing! It's a free FOSS app for syncing files and is available on all devices, and it's all self hosted. I initially used it for Obsidian syncing, but it's proved incredibly useful beyond that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They mentioned SyncThing. 👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The biggest issue I had was with folder permissions on Android. I also ended up paying for the sync functionality and have zero regrets.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (8 children)

It's interesting that a closed-source app has good reputation among FOSS enthusiasts. Surely they are not a Microsoft or Apple, but still who controls your computer, you or them?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

It stores your data in plaintext, and simply uses the program to parse special formatting characters. There are no attempts at obfuscation or encryption, and it doesn’t lock you into a walled garden that refuses to play nice with other programs. The program itself is closed-source, but anyone could write an open source version to parse the same info… There just hasn’t been a good reason to do so. Even if Obsidian as a company and program ceases to exist overnight, your data is still safe on your machine and can be read by anyone who cares enough to dig into the file. Hell, you can even open it as the plaintext file and dig through it manually.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I just cant wrap my head around why they're willing to go so far to gain good will from people by having such a generous free tier, but somehow licensing the code under a FOSS license is out of the question??

Why not just go all the way and make sure everyone who cares about reading the souce could also give you free contributions?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

I think the big difference is that you can use it for free without any account needed, and all your data is stored locally in a format that remains accessible to alternative apps.

So the moment they start doing questionable stuff you are not a hostage to their app. There are alternatives, they are just not as nice as this currently.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Excellent news ! Excellent note taking applications with its ecosystem of extensions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (15 children)

This post was how I learned about Obsidian.

For those of you that love it, how do you use it daily?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Daily notes. I have a template that prompts me to fill out a number details I might otherwise forget.

A wiki of people that helps me remember details about people I meet or have worked with. Makes it much easier to keep in touch and to remember important dates in their lives.

Sortable todo lists, with due date and urgency information. I can add to the lists directly from any other note using a Dataview formula with the Tasks extension.

Career plans. Project plans. Gardening plans. Recipes (there's an awesome extension that imports recipes from the web).

Any random writing I might want to do, from short stories to rough drafts of letters to stream of consciousness mind spew that I want to review later.

I use the Auto Note Mover and Dataview extensions, along with backlinks and tags, to keep all of my notes organized automatically. I use the Linter extension to make sure things are formatted nicely. When I started using Obsidian, I used the Importer extension yo easily pull in all of my existing notes and lists from Evernote and Google Keep.

Honestly, that barely scratches the surface.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Daily journal Task list / project management Note taking Mind mapping Resource archive

I've got my vault automated pretty well at this point. I honestly don't know what I would do without it.

For those of you that are wondering, everything is markdown independent, all of my plugins address UI or vault automation processes that leave all of my information entirely portable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

here's a bunch of possible applications:

  1. simple note taking. like notepad except you have your notes at a place where you can search through them and even link one from another.
  2. second brain. you can watch a video about it but basically to organize your thoughts, record things you learn, make connections between things to have a digital brain you can search or browse through.
  3. work or school. notes, to do lists, reminders, links to sources, etc all in one place with references via links
  4. journal. pretty straightforward, but you can imagine things you could do if you could link from your journal entry to a website, or another entry, or something from your movie collection.
  5. database. eg maybe you have a movie collection and want to document all the details, including which ones you watched, which ones you liked, and what you think about them. you can have a file for each movie but also files for directors, actors, etc that you can link to and from, in which you have info on those, including images, tags for easy search.

so you watched a movie and wonder what other movies you own have the same starring actor: search movie, click link to the star page, check backlinks.

obviously not the best use case because imdb exists but this is personal and could be extrapolated to any collection you have, maybe even all of them. why not have the movie adaptation link to the original book?


TLDR


you can think about it like: imagine if you could make a bunch of wiki pages. the formatting isn't quite as nice but essentially that's what you're doing. a bunch of pages with text, images, links and tags, that you can browse through. what would you use it for?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use Obsidian as a tool to help my shitty memory.

I want to have one single place where I can go search for a thing I know I saw somewhere but can't remember where or what it was exactly

"Did I watch movie X" -> Obsidian -> Watchlist -> Movies and there it'll be.

Same for tv-series, anime, books, games. Yes there are services that do it like Trakt, Imdb, Letterboxd, TVMaze and god knows how many for games. They all get enshittified eventually requiring you to pay for basic functionality (looking at you trakt...)

I'm building a tool for getting my data out from all those services into Obsidian markdown format, maybe It'll get finished some day :D (IMDB and Goodreads work, but you need to do a manual csv export)

"How did I install that finicky piece of software last time" -> Obsidian, I wrote something down because I knew I couldn't remember it. Then I'll improve the guide + refresh with new data.

Now I have a pretty good step-by step guide on how to set up a computer, no matter the OS, just how I like it - all in Obsidian. Mostly just commands I copy-paste and some manual steps that I can't be arsed to automate.

Same with my daily notes, I just write down what I did maybe with some tags so I can find them when I start wondering when did I visit X or put up the curtains in the bedroom.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

How did I install that finicky piece of software last time

This. So much this. Every time I start a new project I'm so glad to have these notes to refer back to.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Dynalist is where it's at.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago (16 children)

I couldn't get work to pay for it so I found a better, cheaper alternative, Notesnook. It's open source (client and sync server), you can publish notes, and it's end-to-end encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It says it's free, but then there's a pricing and plans page?

A lot of alarm bells ringing for me about that app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Notesnook is free. It is developed under gpl https://github.com/streetwriters/notesnook

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