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[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I was using Obsidian for a while, but actually switched when I found an awesome open source alternative, SilverBullet. The best comparison would be "Obsidian but for tinkerers/hackers".

Data is stored plaintext the same as obsidian - I actually just copy pasted my vault and it worked with exception of wikilinks being absolute paths only - and haven't looked back

The only downside is that its in early stages of development, but definitely usable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I jumped over to logseq. It takes some getting used to, but overall logseq is working fine overall.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I like Silverbullet, but I could never get the file tree to work well. Any tips? Or is that not a feature you use?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I have an "index" page where I link important pages and files. When I want to move them I rename them. If I do bulk data changes I SSH to my server and move the files in an old fashioned way. Personally I have not tried the filetree plugin, since I did not have the need for it - and probably the author of the project aswell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Excellent news for myself. I've wanted to use this at work but it's hard enough to convince people to use it without asking for money.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Read whole page. Not sure what Obsidian even is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Its a staggeringly powerful app. Utilizing the markdown format and the Dataview plugin to create queries with metadata in your notes allows you to build INSANE knowledge management systems.

Example of some set ups here: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/14-example-vaults-from-around-the-web-kepano-nick-milo-the-sweet-setup-and-more/81788

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Note-taking app. Each note is a markdown file, so you can add formatting.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A very successful one with a large extension ecosystem to boot.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like trillium, but not open source Here is an enthusiastic person talking about the state of the art of one year ago for 20 minute. https://youtu.be/XRpHIa-2XCE

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

It's like Millium, but one more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Excellent news ! Excellent note taking applications with its ecosystem of extensions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Dynalist is where it's at.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It is a really good app. But was a pain in the ass to keep the archive in sync using multiple different platforms without paying for their sync addon in my experience. You can roll your own sync with stuff like Syncthing, cloud storage, etc. But the archive had a bad habit of seemingly finding ways to get out of sync.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Take a look a SyncThing! It's a free FOSS app for syncing files and is available on all devices, and it's all self hosted. I initially used it for Obsidian syncing, but it's proved incredibly useful beyond that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

They mentioned SyncThing. 👍

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just paid for the sync 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s $4 a month, I drink one beer less a month and I actually save 3€ 😀

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The biggest issue I had was with folder permissions on Android. I also ended up paying for the sync functionality and have zero regrets.

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[–] [email protected] 192 points 2 days ago (19 children)

I don't necessarily like a few takes in the comments here.

Vibes wise the Obsidian team seems to be great and they don't seem to have shown any reason why I should distrust them. I love FOSS but gifting others my work doesn't put food on my table, so in that sense they need to have a lucrative business model which they seem to have established.

I could use SyncThing, Git or other solutions to do synchronisation between my devices but I choose to buy their Sync offer, since I want to support them (they also have EU servers, which need to be GDPR compliant by law afaik).

The closest comparison I could make is NextCloud. NextCloud open sources their software, but they sell convenience. Sure, you could self host it, but paying them to do so for you may be more attractive. In comparison Obsidian is not really complicated to set up or maintain. It's literally just a MD-editor. So the only convenient thing to sell is synchronisation if you don't want to put a price tag on the software.

If they open source all their code, some tech wizard will implement a self hosted obsidian sync server with the same convenience as theirs in a day, and the company will lose their revenue stream.

We've all been burned by tech bros in one way or another, but I think it's ok for people to profit off of their IP. And they seem to be doing so with a positive vision. Feel free to let me eat my words if they ever go rogue, but that's my 2 cents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Someone develops logseq which is completely foss and like obsidian. Now I can choose to donate to FOSS or buy closed source. How do you decide?

We just need to establish paying for open source software more.

https://github.com/logseq/logseq/

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's interesting that a closed-source app has good reputation among FOSS enthusiasts. Surely they are not a Microsoft or Apple, but still who controls your computer, you or them?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

It stores your data in plaintext, and simply uses the program to parse special formatting characters. There are no attempts at obfuscation or encryption, and it doesn’t lock you into a walled garden that refuses to play nice with other programs. The program itself is closed-source, but anyone could write an open source version to parse the same info… There just hasn’t been a good reason to do so. Even if Obsidian as a company and program ceases to exist overnight, your data is still safe on your machine and can be read by anyone who cares enough to dig into the file. Hell, you can even open it as the plaintext file and dig through it manually.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I just cant wrap my head around why they're willing to go so far to gain good will from people by having such a generous free tier, but somehow licensing the code under a FOSS license is out of the question??

Why not just go all the way and make sure everyone who cares about reading the souce could also give you free contributions?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I wanted to go all in on Obsidian, but in the end I went with "Upnote" which has an easy UI and a lifetime price. (No monthly fees). It's like a mix of Evernote and OneNote. The Slash commands are so cool too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It's a different thing. What Obsidian and Logseq offer is plain-text markdown files in folders on your disk. Upnote and most of the other alternatives mentioned in this post store their data in a database.

Different thing altogether. Just depends what you're looking for.

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