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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If it escapes under Trump's leadership can we call it the trump virus? Please?

[–] Tramort 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Bird flu boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Morbus Maga.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The constant edging with bird flu mania is going to make people not pay attention when it actually pops off.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is that the CDC isn't getting to say anything right now, so we can assume that the moment they get to talk about it, the stupidest people you know are going to go "woah this was really sudden! They clearly made it in a lab!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's actually a really good counter point that I hadn't thought of.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you, I've spent a lot of time giving myself brain damage so I can understand the perspective of conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Huff a lot of glue or paint, maybe ram a crayon or two in your brain. Then you might get close to understanding.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

If we just stop testing it will go away like magic. Did you learn nothing from Covid?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The little boy who called bird flu, but I think the call here is that it is difficult to feel safe behind the idea that it does not cross the species barrier when you have bird flu in cows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately people will just think "Hey I've seen this bird flu in the news and it didn't seem bad." Then they ignore all virologist recommendations and we have a second pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Too little information is as bad as too much, it is a difficult balance. The problem with information dissemination last time was not oversaturation but that people latched onto ridiculous conspiracy narratives and that derives from lack of basic education not too much news.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

When would you like to be alarmed? For me it was when it jumped to mammals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

And this time there will be zero investment in stopping it spreading when it starts killing people

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Corona 2 electric boogaloo here we come!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This would be much worse than COVID. Bird flu is far more deadly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

in the beginning yes, but as the virus mutates, the variant that spreads quicker will also be less deadly. like with covid too. not that it isn't dangerous now, but it was far deadlier in the early stages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

in a country that could start acting against this virus right now with RNA vaccine research has probably closed down all those facilities

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No coincidences, trump will always bring disease and ruin. You keep welcoming the fox back into the henhouse, America.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Between this and Gaza (and everything else), I really honestly don't think we have seen a person in all of human history who checks more boxes of being the antichrist.

Like fuck, he literally brings pestilence and disease with him.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

If we could get enough people to stop eating animal products at the same time, it would simultaneously lower their personal risks of infection, the risks of another pandemic, and it could hit the animal ag industries hard - who are some of the largest funders of the gop.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love the enthusiasm but the movement would immediately be labelled as woke and a lot of people would start eating more animals just to “own the libs”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The people who would do that would be putting themselves at greater risk when the next pandemic does break out. That's their problem - especially if they've been informed on everything they can do to help and protect themselves.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s their problem

Unfortunately, with how pandemics work, it would be everyone's problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It already is, and they're already speedrunning us into the next one. All the more reason to focus on protecting who we can, and who is willing to not be an active harm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Nah, we just need to lean into their toxic male fragility. Remind them it's super gay to have some animal's meat in their mouth. So juicy it slides right down your throat. Yeah, you enjoy that beef on your tongue, you slut?

If we really pushed that message, Joe Rogan would be vegan within a week.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the last pandemic, we couldn't get people to wear a mask sometimes without them losing their shit.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I’ve been doing my part of drinking stuff with oat milk and eating a plant based diet

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The mask thing is going to be so funny again..... I guess .. ughhhhhhhhhhhh. Subscribe to the WHO if you haven't already

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I'd be more than willing to build special warehouses for the unvaccinated manned by doctors and midwives with tons of knowledge about holistic medicine and essential oils, get them out of real hospitals

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

There is also a reputed new cat-to/from-human transmission vector for H5N1, which was briefly noted in a CDC report last week before being redacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/cdc-bird-flu-cats-people.html . NYT article may be paywalled, but details can be found in other media sources as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@ploot

It’s a matter of time before some variant mutate and enable fall on human human transmission. When was the Spanish flu pandemic.. 1918

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, and I've heard people say "It'll be OK; the strain that goes pandemic won't be as lethal as the current strains." There's some truth in this, that extremely deadly viruses will tend to burn themselves out by killing their hosts so not spread so widely. So perhaps bird flu transmitted from person to person would not sustain the extremely high death rates this type of flu has shown in people in the past. But as the 1918 flu and even the COVID pandemic show, there's a lot of wiggle room for a virus between utterly deadly and utterly harmless, and even something that's far from the worst can still go pandemic and cause huge amounts of death, disruption and misery.

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